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KapteeniKaarlo View Drop Down
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    Posted: March 04 2010 at 07:35

Hi all! I hope this is  the right lounge for this topic, I joined long ago but haven't really visited this forum since. I didn't find any earlier topic that was about this matter, but maybe I was just too lazy to search...  sorry, if this is already treated subject.

When talking about making a big prog-piece, I find that many of those songs are kind of a chapter-based songs, with no true musically thematic continuity in them. This is not necessarily a bad thing, of course, but I was wondering if there are some bands/songs, that use their musical ideas and themes "economically" as in sense of classical music, in forms of variating and modulating the main theme, or in some other inventive ways. Can anyone give examples of this kind of prog-pieces?  It would be fun to try to make something musically big, though economical.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 04 2010 at 07:47
The entire genres of post rock and post metal would be a good start.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 04 2010 at 08:07
...and Electronic Prog
What?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 04 2010 at 11:00

you forgot to say "search the internet"Big smile

Do you have any opinion or examples of certain pieces using it's material really efficiently? I was thinking more of classical/symphonic or eclectic prog bands that are good in this sort of music making. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 13 2010 at 10:45
Hate to bring up all the giant bands, but Yes and Genesis both used their themes multiple times in the course of their albums and long songs.

The slong Close top the Edge by Yes basically has 3 or 4 musical ideas that are played in different ways throughout. Genesis' Supper's Ready continuously revisits the first part, Lover's Leap. The Lamb Lies DOwn on Broadway revisits multiple themes. And the songs from Tales from Topographic Oceans by Yes all reuse the same melodies and riffs.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 13 2010 at 19:31
Roger Waters is great at this. He did it very much in The Wall and The Pros and Cons of Hitch Hiking.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2010 at 01:31
You should search through Internet. Search Engines can give you more useful and latest results.........
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