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Topic: Turntables Posted: May 04 2005 at 19:22 |
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oliverstoned
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Posted: May 05 2005 at 03:10 |
Very few good turntables inyour selection, except "sondek"
Linn LP 12.
In my opinion, you never ear a good Linn on a real system.
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Posted: May 05 2005 at 11:22 |
I have an audio technica that I bought at Circuit City. It ain't the best, but it will do just fine. I will upgrade to a Pink Triangle one of these days. As soon as I have paid off my Minimoog!!
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Posted: May 05 2005 at 15:21 |
Her's a very good one: SOTA COSMOS
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Posted: May 05 2005 at 20:03 |
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Posted: May 06 2005 at 13:23 |
>>>
Hmmm...quite confuse
I'm sure it's not your last message, anyway!
First , i NEVER read reviews, i hate it, especially here in France, they are corrupted, they only review bad devices and brands, and they never give good advices.
All i know comes from an audiophile who learn me all.
Second, i don't put all my money in granit, when i'll put the pics on the site, you'll see i put concrete pieces on my speakers and my sub (7 kg on each speaker and 100 kg on the sub).
I have a very very tight budget system.
I go to the best with the few money i have.
But of course, i'm waiting to have extra money to buy granit pieces which are much more nicer aesthetically.
I just dream on very musical gear, i think english are the best for budget musical devices , btw it's curious you don't like Rega planar 3, which embodies the perfect little product which works. Like Linn LP12, which is an absolute reference in its category. Like Qed cables, Nad and rotel integrated amps and cd players, etc...
See you soon, my darling, and keep that britannic phlegm that fits you so well...
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Posted: May 06 2005 at 14:52 |
And btw...one more word...
You dislike Rega planar 3 and you dream on Roksan...
What kind of fool are you?
you took bad acid
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Posted: May 10 2005 at 12:54 |
Actually, Pink triangle is very good, and is Linn's concurrent.
The Anniversary SE model is very good.
The pb with Linn is its suspension system which required
the turntable to be on a very stable support and often a good canceller vib system.
If not, it doesn't works at all.
On another hand, Roksan is really average and REALLY BELOW REGA 3!!!!!
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Posted: May 10 2005 at 12:56 |
...and high end Sota and Microseiki smokes all!!!
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Posted: May 10 2005 at 15:33 |
Hang on... why's it called Pink Triangle..?
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Posted: May 11 2005 at 13:51 |
It's a turntable's brand.
Erotic brand!
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Posted: May 11 2005 at 13:52 |
Karnevil9 wrote:
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Why did you delete your message?
Edited by oliverstoned - September 08 2006 at 09:19
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Tony Fisher
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Posted: May 11 2005 at 17:04 |
Goose, it's called Pink Triangle because the company owner and designer is gay and wanted his brand to reflect this. Being straight and slightly naive, I didn't have a clue what Pink Triangle meant for ages after I bought the deck. Some bigoted, narrow minded dealers wouldn't stock his products because of this which was an awful shame because the sound quality is second to absolutely none, the build is exemplary and the looks are drop dead - the glass top plate is wonderful. Mine is light ash and looks better than the one in Oliver's post.
And Oliver, the Roksan Xerxes is another excellent deck - far above a Linn Sondek IMHO.
Tony Fisher
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Posted: May 12 2005 at 12:54 |
Ha ha!
i admit that Pink triangle is very good but Roksan is very average...
Linn LP 12 smokes this!!
But as i explain above, YOU NEED TO PUT IT WELL IN ORDER IT WORKS; ITS NOT AS SIMPLE TO PUT IT ON A POOR FURNITURE AND PLUG IT. IT DESERVES MORE!
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Posted: May 13 2005 at 10:01 |
^ These are great photos Oliverstoned.
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Posted: May 13 2005 at 10:43 |
have you seen the nakamichi tape decks?
There are even better
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Posted: May 16 2005 at 08:14 |
[QUOTE=oliverstoned]Actually, Pink triangle is very good, and is Linn's concurrent. The Anniversary SE model is very good.
There is no SE version of the Pink Triangle 'Anniversary'!
Regarding Linn 'Sondek'.Pink Triangle brought out a upgrade kit for the Linn called the ''P-LINK''(PINK LINK)... Which included a repacement top plate with new DC motor mounted at 7 o'clock position instead of the usual 10 o'clock.....Also PT ouboard power supply....In short too the piss out of the Linn.Ivor Tiffenburn (LINN MD) tried taking PT to court but did'nt work.
Edited by Barbarian
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Posted: May 16 2005 at 10:19 |
There was certainly no love lost between Ivor Tiefenbrun and Arthur Khoubesserian of Pink Triangle! I never heard the Pink Link but I bet it drove Ivor mad. I suspect it was done partly as a piss take and partly to demonstrate the fairly obvious deficiencies of the LP12.
Linn wouldn't allow any dealer who sold their products to stock PT's stuff as well under pain of losing the Linn franchise. Were they scared of direct comparison?
I am one of very few who have heard a direct comparison since I inherited a Linn LP12 from my father and I bought a PT Anniversary for myself. The PT was MILES better - and I mean MILES!!! Switching from the Linn to the PT was like removing a curtain from in front of the speakers. Yet still the LInn gets rave reviews - God knows how. I wonder if the reviewers have actually listened to it.
Tony
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Posted: May 16 2005 at 13:36 |
I already explain you that the Linn, due to its suspension
design, needs a very steady support, if not efficient vib' cancellers.
If not, it doesn't works.
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Tony Fisher
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Posted: May 17 2005 at 08:10 |
Oliver, I had the Linn set up by the Sound Organisation in York - one of the top Linn dealers. If they can't make it sound right, it won't ever sound right. It didn't, even on their choice of support. The support was not the problem, it was the deck. The guy who did the demo (who has since left their employment) now admits that, although he pushed and praised the LP12 at the time, he didn't actually like the deck!
The PT had identical support and sounded SO superior.
Tony
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