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richardh
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Topic: Rainbow Posted: May 03 2005 at 18:17 |
Definetly some prog credentials with Don Airey on keyboards especially.They always seemed to me to be more pompous than Deep Purple and so tended to veer more towards prog than Purple ever did.Not everything they did could be called prog obviously but what about these:
Stargazer
Gates Of Babylon
Light In The Black
Lost In Hollywood
Man On The Silver Mountain
Anymore?
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Posted: May 03 2005 at 18:25 |
They kind of lost me after Dio left & Blackmore went in search of a 'hit' single. What happened to their ex keyboard player Tony Carey. Didn't he have some minor success as a solo artist in the States?
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Posted: May 03 2005 at 21:43 |
Dio-era Rainbow is AMAZING. Better than Purple, easily. Those three albums (and the live albums) are, simply, killer. Yeah, they did some tracks that veered from the well-beaten, familiar hard rock path. Mickey Lee Soule (Ritchie Blackmore's Rainbow), Tony Carey (Rising) and David Stone (Long Live Rock 'N' Roll) all laid down some solid-to-stellar keyboard work. Carey's organ solo in "A Light In The Black" is one of Rising' s best moments.
Post-Dio Rainbow has its share of moments and good songs, but cannot match the sheer quality of the material circa 1975-1978. I do like the last Turner-Rainbow album, Bent Out Of Shape, the best of post-Dio.
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Posted: May 04 2005 at 03:15 |
I'll stop at the DIO era-Rainbow ! With Rising as a peak! everysong is fantastic bar one real dud! The last track on the side A (do you close your eyes - if memory serves me well)!
But not close enough for inclusion IMHO!
I tried as hard as I could to still like them after those albums but it was gone!
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Posted: May 04 2005 at 03:35 |
Dio/Rainbow (Dio/almost anything!!!) are fantastic!
There is some progginess in the early albums - especially the tracks mentioned, but early Deep Purple is easily as proggy (the entire In Rock album particularly).
On a scale of Pop to Prog : Prog metal.
Progginess factor 1 to 10 : 7.
After Dio left - Rainbow were definitely not prog and not even metal - just hard rock. But I still like the Joe Lynn Turner and Graham Bonnet stuff - even if the latter did have short hair, wear horrible Hawaii shirts and publicly stated that he hated metal . What a great voice!
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Posted: May 04 2005 at 03:40 |
Stargazer/Light in the Black -- really one 16-minute suite. As proggy as
most things here ...
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PROGMAN
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Posted: May 04 2005 at 06:06 |
Possibly Proggish I suppose. Yes RAINBOW is class.
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Posted: May 04 2005 at 07:43 |
LOve the first three albums and the live album On Stage is awesome - Blackmore's playing on the side-long version of Catch the Rainbow is just brilliant
Likewise Tony Carey's leyboard playing on this album is brilliant and definitely it's his contribution that lends some proggishness to proceedings.
Stargazer, Gates of Babylon and A Light in the Black are definite contenders for prog hard rock - hell if Rush's By-Tor is prog then so is Stargazer!
I love the first few Rainbow albums much more than I do Purple - a little more classically influenced a lot less 12 bar boogie (though that has it's place - Live version of Lazy on Made in Japan for example)
Wouldn't include Rainbow on the archive but it's top stuff - definitely on a bands related to prog submenu
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Posted: May 04 2005 at 08:21 |
Rising is almost a perfect album. "Do You Close Your Eyes" is the song that I don't care that much, but luckily it is also the shortest one.
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Posted: May 04 2005 at 08:29 |
The oficcial live album "On Stage" does not reproduces the power of the band live.
The RAINBOW LIVE ALBUM is "Live iIn Germany" released years ago by Conaisseur (which released also a number of live Purple albuns). Here yes we have great musicianship from Blackmore, Bain, Carey and Powell, with extra solos of keyboards and drums and the track "Stargazer" unfaily absent at "On Stage". This is one of the best live albuns of all time!!!!!!! Get it if you can!
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Posted: May 04 2005 at 12:23 |
Certif1ed wrote:
Dio/Rainbow (Dio/almost anything!!!) are fantastic! |
Hey, those words are music to my ears!
I finally got all the Elf stuff on CD a while back!
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Posted: May 04 2005 at 13:29 |
I too am a BIG fan of Rainbow and love the voice of the "little big man" Ronald James Dio, for me,the greatest heavy rock vocalist ever. Love their first three albums,but it all started to go pear-shape on "Long Live Rock And Roll" when Blackmore started to become obsessed with Top 40 Singles Chart success. Graham Bonnet,what can one say,I can never forget how much of a prat he looked at the 1st Monsters Of Rock Festival at Donnington,in his jacket and shades. Rainbow had prog elements (we've done this before haven't we?)but were never really a progressive rock band,just a gloriously pompous heavy rock band.
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Posted: May 04 2005 at 13:34 |
RAINBOW with DIO is a monster of rock!!!!
Unfortunately the machine failed after Ronnie's departure...when Joe lynn Turner integrated the band, they turned to something more commercial!!
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Posted: May 04 2005 at 15:13 |
dropForge wrote:
Certif1ed wrote:
Dio/Rainbow (Dio/almost anything!!!) are fantastic! |
Hey, those words are music to my ears!
I finally got all the Elf stuff on CD a while back!
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I'm still trying to track down the rest of their albums on vinyl.
Nice to see that "Carolina County Ball" contains a track called "Rainbow" - the topic of every other lyric he wrote
RJD was, of course, a massive fan of Jeffrey, George, Zippy and Bungle - but wasn't so keen on Rod or Freddie. He had the hots for Jane like everyone else though...
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Posted: May 04 2005 at 15:14 |
I really dig Rainbow. They are prog metal giants.
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Posted: August 08 2005 at 21:41 |
High noon, oh I'd sell my soul for water Nine years worth of breakin' my back There's no sun in the shadow of the wizard See how he glides, why he's lighter than air? Oh I see his face!
Where is your star? Is it far, is it far, is it far? When do we leave? I believe, yes, I believe
In the heat and the rain With the whips and chains To see him fly So many die We built a tower of stone With our flesh and bone Just to see him fly But don't know why Now where do we go?
Hot wind, moving fast across the desert We feel that our time has arrived The world spins, while we put his dream together A tower of stone to take him straight to the sky Oh I see his face!
Where is your star? Is it far, is it far, is it far? When do we leave? Hey, I believe, I believe
In the heat and the rain With the whips and chains Just to see him fly Too many die We built a tower of stone With our flesh and bone To see him fly But we don't know why Ooh, now where do we go
All eyes see the figure of the wizard As he climbs to the top of the world No sound, as he falls instead of rising Time standing still, then there's blood on the sand Oh I see his face!
Where was your star? Was it far, was it far When did we leave? We believed, we believed, we believed
In heat and rain With the whips and chains To see him fly So many died We built a tower of stone With our flesh and bone To see him fly
But why In all the rain With all the chains Did so many die Just to see him fly
Look at my flesh and bone Now, look, look, look, look, Look at the tower of stone I see your rainbow rising Look there, on the horizon oh no, who's rising And I'm coming home, I'm coming home, I'm coming home
Time is standing still You, give back my will Ooh ooh ooh ooh Going home I'm going home
My eyes are bleeding And my heart is lead ahead But it's not home But it's not home Ooh
Take me back You, give me back my will Ooh ooh ooh ooh
Going home I'm going home
My eyes are bleeding And my heart is lead ahead But it's not home But it's not home
Take me back, take me back Back to my home ooh, ooh, ooh
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Posted: August 08 2005 at 23:05 |
That is brilliant tux, I'm a Dio-era Rainbow lover myself ... haven't heard On Stage though ... and funnily enough, while I think the band was at its tightest on Rainbow Rising ... both the first album and Long Live Rock'N'Roll have more of my favourite songs ...
Got a Rainbow compile for my car that goes like this ...
Man On The Silver Mountain Self-Portrait Catch The Rainbow Snake Charmer If You Don't Like Rock'N'Roll 16th Century Greensleeves Temple Of The King Tarot Woman Run With The Wolf Starstruck Stargazer Light In The Black Long Live Rock'N'Roll Kill The King Lady Of The Lake Gates Of Babylon Rainbow Eyes
Almost all of them brill, but my favourite underrated tracks are Self Potrait, Tarot Woman, 16th Century Greensleeves, Lady Of The Lake and Rainbow Eyes (wipes away stray tear) ...
Oddly enough going back to the initial premise of this thread ... I think there's nothing remotely progressive about the time Don Airey was with the band ... the Graham Bonnet/Joe Lynn Turner years were a clear attempt to be commercial, with only one result (Since You've Been Gone) that I particularly enjoy ...
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Posted: August 09 2005 at 03:41 |
richardh wrote:
Definetly some prog credentials with Don Airey on keyboards especially.They always seemed to me to be more pompous than Deep Purple and so tended to veer more towards prog than Purple ever did.Not everything they did could be called prog obviously but what about these:
Stargazer
Gates Of Babylon
Light In The Black
Lost In Hollywood
Man On The Silver Mountain
Anymore?
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RAINBOW
is my favourite
stargazer
tarot woman
man on the silver mountain
gates of babylon
light in the black
kill the king
street of dreams
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salmacis
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Posted: August 09 2005 at 04:29 |
I think that Rainbow certainly are progressive at times- all the Dio stuff is as progressive as heavy rock got. To Richard H's list, I would add 'Catch The Rainbow'- some nice mellotron on that.
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