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Topic: David Gilmour > Jimi Hendrix Posted: March 19 2009 at 19:30 |
In fact, by a long shot IMO.
Discuss.
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Posted: March 19 2009 at 19:59 |
Two distinct styles.
I'm sure if Hendrix was around during the 70's, he would have innovated some new things, and came up with a new sound.
The same goes for Gilmour, if he was not held back by Waters (as many claim he was, I included), he could have exploded into the best guitarist our world has yet to see.
Its like comparing RIO to Symphonic prog, hard to do.
However, at the end of the day, I prefer Gilmour's style over Hendrix's.
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Posted: March 19 2009 at 20:24 |
I've never really liked Hendrix (very overrated IMO), but I love Gilmour.
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: March 19 2009 at 21:01 |
OzzProg wrote:
Two distinct styles.
I'm sure if Hendrix was around during the 70's, he would have innovated some new things, and came up with a new sound.
The same goes for Gilmour, if he was not held back by Waters (as many claim he was, I included), he could have exploded into the best guitarist our world has yet to see.
Its like comparing RIO to Symphonic prog, hard to do.
However, at the end of the day, I prefer Gilmour's style over Hendrix's.
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Two distinct styles, but it's hardly a stretch like trying to compare a classical guitarist to a funk guitarist, which mind you, can still be done.
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Posted: March 19 2009 at 21:17 |
I have all due respect for Gilmour, but please...
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Posted: March 19 2009 at 22:07 |
It's not so much about who is the better guitarist, or vocalist for that matter, for me, it's about whose music engages me more. I like both, but I much prefer Hendrix. I find him to be musically more vibrant and/or immediate in a way. Gilmour is sometimes too polished to really connect with me; whereas, Hendrix has this grittier and more grounded (no matter how high he was) or real feel (even when "out' there), and "beautiful" stuff. I was listening to "Castles Made of Sand" earlier today; love that track.
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Posted: March 19 2009 at 22:12 |
Honestly if not for popular media's portrayal of Jimi Hendrix I never would have associated him with being a great guitar player or even a good composer. I don't find his playing all that interesting and I rarely listen to anything he's done. I just don't particularly enjoy him aside from a few listens here and there.
Gilmour on the other hand just had a way of making it feel like his guitar lines were speaking directly to you independent of any intentions of the man playing them. His playing is a very intimate experience for the listener and that is truly amazing.
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Posted: March 20 2009 at 04:41 |
jammun wrote:
I have all due respect for Gilmour, but please... |
But please........? I'd love to actually know why you feel the way you do. That short statement doesn't tell me a whole lot if I must be honest.
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Posted: March 20 2009 at 04:58 |
Well I am not sure you can compare the two. Two totally different styles, One died in his 20's, the other pushing 65 and still improvising and searching new limits.
Another poster claims Waters held Gilmour back......no way on earth could anyone hold Gilmour back. As for Jimi, he was like a bullet train just passing through
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Posted: March 20 2009 at 05:35 |
Chris S wrote:
Well I am not sure you can compare the two. Two totally different styles, One died in his 20's, the other pushing 65 and still improvising and searching new limits.
Another poster claims Waters held Gilmour back......no way on earth could anyone hold Gilmour back. As for Jimi, he was like a bullet train just passing through
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Of course you can compare the two. And no, they don't have totally different styles. I would interpret "totally different styles' as meaning perhaps as one guitarist plays funk and the other technical death metal music perhaps. But both are firmly rooted in the style of blues rock, both dabbled (to some extent or another) in psychadelic experimentation with their playing. Maybe Gilmour was held back. It's evident from watching various DVDs of Gilmour's playing and the fact that he teaches at the Academy of Contempory Music that he could probably play well beyond what he usually shows us, whereas I believe Hendrix was basically at his limit, in terms of pure technical skill on the guitar. The big question/s: Who do you prefer? Why do you prefer the one you choose as your first preference?
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Posted: March 20 2009 at 06:10 |
^ I prefer neither and like each equally ,IMO, their very different styles, blues influences aside. You can compare them, I can't do that...sorry.
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Posted: March 20 2009 at 06:29 |
HughesJB4 wrote:
Chris S wrote:
Well I am not sure you can compare the two. Two totally different styles, One died in his 20's, the other pushing 65 and still improvising and searching new limits.
Another poster claims Waters held Gilmour back......no way on earth could anyone hold Gilmour back. As for Jimi, he was like a bullet train just passing through
Boths gifts to the world of BIG music |
Of course you can compare the two. And no, they don't have totally different styles. I would interpret "totally different styles' as meaning perhaps as one guitarist plays funk and the other technical death metal music perhaps. But both are firmly rooted in the style of blues rock, both dabbled (to some extent or another) in psychadelic experimentation with their playing. Maybe Gilmour was held back. It's evident from watching various DVDs of Gilmour's playing and the fact that he teaches at the Academy of Contempory Music that he could probably play well beyond what he usually shows us, whereas I believe Hendrix was basically at his limit, in terms of pure technical skill on the guitar.
The big question/s: Who do you prefer? Why do you prefer the one you choose as your first preference?
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Well, you can never know that, can you? Maybe Jimi would have lived to play with Miles or ELP and to develop his technical & songwriting skills beyond anyone else's, maybe not... We can't know. ![Smile Smile](smileys/smiley1.gif) Still I appreciate your words about Gilmour, which is usually not very highly regarded here on PA.
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Posted: March 20 2009 at 07:32 |
I prefer Gilmour, personally. However, I think Hendrix was probably a better guitarist.
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Posted: March 20 2009 at 09:18 |
Gilmour for me, i like Pink Floyd too much
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Posted: March 20 2009 at 10:53 |
Strange comparison... cronological Hendrix was at his peak, when Gilmour is almost starting.
When Gilmour have his peak Hendrix was very death.
do not understand what is the real reason to compare those...
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Posted: March 20 2009 at 10:56 |
HughesJB4 wrote:
Chris S wrote:
Well I am not sure you can compare the two. Two totally different styles, One died in his 20's, the other pushing 65 and still improvising and searching new limits.
Another poster claims Waters held Gilmour back......no way on earth could anyone hold Gilmour back. As for Jimi, he was like a bullet train just passing through
Boths gifts to the world of BIG music |
Of course you can compare the two. And no, they don't have totally different styles. I would interpret "totally different styles' as meaning perhaps as one guitarist plays funk and the other technical death metal music perhaps. But both are firmly rooted in the style of blues rock, both dabbled (to some extent or another) in psychadelic experimentation with their playing. Maybe Gilmour was held back. It's evident from watching various DVDs of Gilmour's playing and the fact that he teaches at the Academy of Contempory Music that he could probably play well beyond what he usually shows us, whereas I believe Hendrix was basically at his limit, in terms of pure technical skill on the guitar.
The big question/s: Who do you prefer? Why do you prefer the one you choose as your first preference?
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I prefer Gilmour because I prefer the music he plays. I prefer Gilmour's technique and style because I prefer that kind of controlled playing. I recognise that Hendrix was a great innivotive guitarist, he just didn't record very music much that I liked.
To me this is one of those questions that has no definitive answer - we cannot speculate on how Hendrix would have developed as a guitarist - he could have gone so many ways - he could have just as easily become dull and repetitive or he could have gone on to the next level but he could have also burned out like Peter Green.
All the guitarists in the (UK) psychedelic scene in the late 60s fed off each other, they all influenced each other, and to some extent tried to out-do each other - Hendrix was a (reluctant) showman, Gilmour was never a showman - both pushed at the limits of what a guitar could do and what you could do with it, both on stage and, more importantly, in the studio - both saw the studio as an extension of the instrument rather than just a means of recording it. Both were influenced by Syd Barrett (Barrett is often not recognised as a guitarist because he was never a great guitarist, but listening to him play there is a level of control in his use of slide, feedback and wah-peddle that shows a degree of finesse he is not usually associated with) - I would go as far as to say that Hendrix's use of the wah-peddle to control feedback is something he pick-up from watching Barrett play the UFO club in 66/67 rather than the other way around. Gilmour had to "copy" Barrett's techniques to be able to play Barrett's music, but he soon improved and developed those techniques beyond anything that Barrett (or Hendrix) had done - "Saucerful of Secrets" and "Echoes" are Gilmour taking the guitar to almost avant garde levels - whereas Hendrix never strayed too far from his blues roots, even at his most "progressive" Hendrix would never have recorded anything as ground-breaking as those where at the time. After Hendrix's death all comparisons are moot - Gilmour settled into his signature style with is preferred effects (Electric Mistress, stacked Leslie Speakers etc), and honed them to his preferred level of perfection - and the Hendrix Estate muddied the Hendrix-waters by releasing sub-par cash-in recordings that Hendrix would have never released himself.
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Posted: March 20 2009 at 11:04 |
Gilmour would play one note every thirty seconds or so, while Hendrix cared enough to actually play his instrument
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Posted: March 20 2009 at 11:12 |
Apples and Oranges like others have said. Hendrix could play the blues as well and do it quite well. Both have their style and both have their place in music history. We will never know how much further Jimi could have taken it.
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Posted: March 20 2009 at 12:17 |
I think that Hendrix was far more innovative and groundbreaking than Gilmour, and surely equally inspired.
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Posted: March 20 2009 at 12:23 |
Well, they were both innovators, Jimi undeniably brought in a visceral style that simply did not yet exist at the time. Gilmour has a catalog of slick, elegant playing that is perhaps at the polar opposite of Hendrix' rage and fury. In terms of choosing one over the other, there can be little argument other than personal preference.
Both are icons.
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