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    Posted: October 24 2008 at 16:45
As I listened to the awesomness that is Gentle Giant's Playing the Fool. (My god they're so amazing live I really wish I could have seen them back in the day. D:) I had a really spontaneous thought.

As long as I can remember I have been getting really good Progressive Albums.. or so what the critics and others say about the album. (But I don't judge the album with its rating. I usually read three or four reviews about the album with contrasting ratings to see what the album's like.)

Since I've immersed myself with really good progressive music I wondered what a terrible progressive album / band may sound like.

Its random but I just want to see the ugly side of prog and how I may react to it. Just post a few bands or albums that you think are perhaps the worst progressive bands/ albums ever.

But be warned I am a pretty easy going guy with music. I love Mr. Bungle and actually have fallen asleep to their Disco Volante and had a really good night's sleep. It may be tough to actually suggest me a horrible prog album/ band. But I'll see how this will go.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 24 2008 at 16:54
Well, you better head to the Unsigned Bands section!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 24 2008 at 17:44
Corollary to this: an album that has lower than a 3 on Allmusic that is not: a minor album from a famous band (Obscured by Clouds) or obviously atrocious music (Katy Perry).
Originally posted by souio souio wrote:

Well, you better head to the Unsigned Bands section!

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This is generally true. If you can't even get the most obscure label to sign you...
 
Or you could just go to neo .;-)
 
I can't think of really terrible prog (other than, like, Love Beach), as I filter for my interests very heavily. And the ones that I would say are extremely mediocre (Porcupine Tree, The Flower Kings, Symphony X, etc.) still have some very ardent fans.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 24 2008 at 17:44
I've yet to meet a prog album that I didn't at least like.  That doesn't include, of course, bad albums put out by good prog artists, but they are primarily bad because they aren't prog, usually commercial pretensions...

Edited by Slartibartfast - October 24 2008 at 17:47
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 24 2008 at 18:10
Torman Maxt is a horrible bad band. Download their free debut album and do not succumb to your urge to self-harm. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 24 2008 at 18:13
oh there is one... damn....   can't remember the name of it.. but a recommendation of a SC that ...well.... sucked ass.  I paid the hard earned jack for it.. and now is using to stabilize my CD shelves, jammed underneath them.  Was some Russian symphonic regressive group... Little Tragedies... think that was the name. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 24 2008 at 18:24
Ekseption.
I have problems taking them serious. It is like a mix of supermarket-music and ballet dancing elks in a field of rhubarbs. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 24 2008 at 18:48

One man's trash is another man's treasure. Honestly, I would much rather talk about what I like and risk being insulted, than what I don't like and risk insulting.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 24 2008 at 19:32
Well, there are some turkeys out there, sure enough, and like the previous contributor suggested, it's better to praise the great aspects of prog rather than criticise it's low points...but I was especially disappointed having shelled out some of my hard earned to buy Calling All Stations by Genesis. I think one listen was enough.

Maybe repeat listens over time will prove me wrong.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 24 2008 at 19:39
said it before, I'll say it again;  there's nothing worse than bad Prog.   Radiomobel's Tramsebox is surprisingly awful, not just the music but the performance, recording, everything.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 24 2008 at 19:45
I wish I could remember their names, but there was a period when I was really into Dream Theater clones and all sorts of hyper standard progressive metal. Most of them sounded about the same, but there were some of the most ill-conceived riffs I've ever run into, some of the weakest song structures, and some downright painful vocals. It didn't help matters that the bands had no desire to claim their own unique sound, either.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 24 2008 at 19:45
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

said it before, I'll say it again;  there's nothing worse than bad Prog.   Radiomobel's Tramsebox is surprisingly awful, not just the music but the performance, recording, everything.


I have it and will make a point of listening at breakfast tomorrow to confirm your assertion!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 24 2008 at 19:47
 ^ OK but I'd wait an hour after eating


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 24 2008 at 19:51
I'm suprised people consider Sky to be prog rock, sounds like easy listening to me, and I don't mean cool lounge exotica type easy listening either.

Being an old fart from way back, I can remember most of us who liked the original prog rock bands could not stand all the wannabes that came out in the mid-70s, but I'm not going to mention any names ... yet.

I have this jazz fusion record, Gregory James - 'Madagascar' (I actually own two copies) that I call the worst jazz fusion record ever. I like to play it for my friends, they usually can't take more than a few minutes.

I have a big record collection and bad music has it's own section, for instance politician Sam Ervin's talking version of Bridge Over Troubled Water or this cover band trying to do the Deep Purple version of Hush. I love listening to the kybdst try to imitate Jon Lord, he just sounds confused.

P.S. I have this religious record where this band tries to sonically potray the preacher's words with really bad avant-prog rock.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 24 2008 at 20:21
'Horrifically Bad Progressive Albums' 
 
Have you tried any neo prog ?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 24 2008 at 20:34
instead of bashing a whole genre why not cite specific albums, as per the thread starters request


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 24 2008 at 20:54
Originally posted by toroddfuglesteg toroddfuglesteg wrote:

Torman Maxt is a horrible bad band. Download their free debut album and do not succumb to your urge to self-harm. 


Torman Maxt is possibly the peak of crappiness.

We even dedicated about 50 pages of the Velvet Room insulted the band and their album.. what was it called? The Problem with Pain, I think.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 24 2008 at 21:55

Like Slartibartfast says, a lot of bad 'prog' albums are bad because they aren't really progressive, but instead resulted from legitimate artists losing their way over trends or money:  Love Beach, Big Generator, Jethro Tull's Under Wraps and Robert Fripp's League of Gentlemen being some of the more glaring examples.

As far as technically 'legitimate' prog - it's a little obscure, but the FInnish band Apollo's self-titled album is one of the worst pieces of toe jam I've ever heard.  And for some reason Warner actually felt the need to reissue it a few years back so an entire new generation could be turned off on prog music.   Read the reviews - there's  no point rehashing their insights here.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 24 2008 at 23:15
 Oh yes, I forgot, Torman Maxt paid M@x good money to let us know that they are the worst prog metal you'll ever hear. And that they read CS Lewis. Most amusing.
 
I would nominate In This Life by Thinking Plague as the worst Avant-prog, and probably one of the worst albums of prog in general. Maybe their other albums are better, but this album sounds like a regular rock band that isn't allowed to play any consonant harmonies or play in 4/4, with a singer who desperately wishes she could sound like Dagmar. That is not what prog is about. That they appear to think they are the best avant-prog band in the world doesn't help either.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 24 2008 at 23:50
Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

I'm suprised people consider Sky to be prog rock, sounds like easy listening to me, and I don't mean cool lounge exotica type easy listening either.



Interesting viewpoint. Myself, I find SKY's first two albums to be quintessential prog, and very good to boot. What's not to like about Monkman's 'Where Opposites Attract'? Or 'Sahara', 'El Cielo', FIFO or 'Scipio' from Sky II? The production is lush and melodic, with absolutely no hard edges, so I suppose one might define that as 'easy listening', but those forst two albums are by no means 'rock classical' or 'muzak' as I've heard them described.

But it's good to hear differing opinions!
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