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    Posted: April 17 2005 at 17:35
I thought this might be fun. What cars have you owned,
and what happened to them? Did you "total" (crash beyond
repair) them? Or maybe you unloaded them on some
unsuspecting victim. Sadly, I've done both.
All my cars have had err.. character. I'm sure I'm not
alone in feeling this way. There is a connection, for me
to the cars and the moments in my life. There must be
some great stories out there. Let's hear them!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2005 at 17:37
I sold my '93 grand voyager when I moved to Idaho from Massachusetts. That is the only other car i ever had.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2005 at 21:37
My '73 Beetle burst into flames while I was making a left turn at an intersection. This was before I got in the habit of carrying a fire extinguisher in all my VWs. I managed to pull over and get me and my passenger out, and we could do nothing but watch as the flames crept forward from the engine towards the gas tank. Luckily the Las Vegas fire department raced to the scene just in time. One of the fireman told me that they see a bug go up almost every week in the summertime (they're 'air-cooled' which doesn't mean much when it's often 115 degrees Fahrenheit).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2005 at 22:08

How the heck should I know?Confused

Traded in -- some may be parts, others are still going, I suppose.Stern Smile

I didn't do any of them in! (Others may have more interesting tales to tell, though....)

"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
He chortled in his joy.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2005 at 22:56

I left mine at a gasstation, I thought the price of gasoline was to high, decided it would be cheaper to walk from there. Took off the license plate, and anything that could identify the car as being mine and never set foot in another car again.

Some people consider me to be weird

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2005 at 23:54

I had a VW bug that also set on fire a couple of times, what is very common for 3 reasons:

  1. The battery is bellow the back seat, if a fat guest sits, the metal skelleton of the seat may touch the two poles of the battery and a spark hit the seat, which is made from a derivate of straw, a chubby friend burned his butt once in my car, we were returning from the beach and he was wearing a synthetic material swimming suit, the burns were really nasty according to the doctor.
  2. The gasoline filter is connected to the gas pump by a thin rubber hose, which is easily expanded by the motor heat, oif this happens the hose gets loose and the gasoline falls in the hot motor or over the carburator (lots of sparks there), of course we all know what it happens.
  3. The gasoline filter is plastic and if you don't change it on time, will weaken with the motor heat and will happen exactly the same as number two.

You learn a lot of mechanics when you have an old car

I sold this car in US$ 2,000.00 to a live saver that answered to a newspaper advice, of course it was totally repaired, with wide tires and a powerfull KP-500 with Coaxial speakers that were top notch in those years.

With the money I bought a second hand Toyota Corona 2000 cc, year 1976, it was an excellent car, sold it to a couple that made a special taxi service to the mountains, great for long trips.

When I entered top Volvo I bought a brick (240), which I still have for trips, because it's automatic and very safe car, I once was crashed by a small truck and almost had nothing, while the truck had a big hit, not even had to call the insurance, because the prime was higher than the repairs.

The big problem is that being automatic you can't brake with the motor, so it's not safe to return from the mountains because it's a very long and radical slope, usually the brakes are hot and stop to work, so I have to stop for an hour in any small town until the breaks get cold again. 

For the city I have a Mazda 323 F year 2002, a pretty car but not remotely good in comparison with all the previous.

Iván



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I learned the trades of the road, late 70's, on an Impala of the Sixties , a rust bucket. Drove it into the ground. Then got a Mazda GLC (manual transmission - much more fun) which I totalled rather fast(my only serious accident) then drove a Honda Accord (late 70's model) for a while but wanted to get serious: first a 68 Firebird for two years (sold it to a friend but never knew what he did with the car) then a 75 240 Z Datsun (now Nissan - which I got rid to a collectioner) then an 87 5.0 V8 Ford Mustang. Sold it as I moved back to Europe.

 

In Europe, I bought the 91 Ford Escort RXi , than for budget reasons bought a crappy Nissan sunny from the sister-in-law but that only gave me problems. I am getting rid of my Rover 216 to get the new 1,8 Saab 93 .

Although European cars are more fun to drive, I must say that I have not had that many good experiences, yet.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 18 2005 at 19:07
Originally posted by ivan_2068 ivan_2068 wrote:

I had a VW bug that also set on
fire a couple of times, what is very common for 3
reasons:



  1. The battery is bellow the back seat, if a fat guest
    sits, the metal skelleton of the seat may touch the two
    poles of the battery and a spark hit the seat, which is
    made from a derivate of straw, a chubby friend burned his
    butt once in my car, we were returning from the beach and
    he was wearing a synthetic material swimming suit, the
    burns were really nasty according to the doctor.
  2. The gasoline filter is connected to the gas pump by a
    thin rubber hose, which is easily expanded by the motor
    heat, oif this happens the hose gets loose and the
    gasoline falls in the hot motor or over the carburator
    (lots of sparks there), of course we all know what it
    happens.
  3. The gasoline filter is plastic and if you don't
    change it on time, will weaken with the motor heat and
    will happen exactly the same as number two.

You learn a lot of mechanics when you have an old car


I sold this car in US$ 2,000.00 to a live saver that
answered to a newspaper advice, of course it was totally
repaired, with wide tires and a powerfull KP-500 with
Coaxial speakers that were top notch in those years.


With the money I bought a second hand Toyota Corona
2000 cc, year 1976, it was an excellent car, sold it to a
couple that made a special taxi service to the mountains,
great for long trips.


When I entered top Volvo I bought a brick (240), which
I still have for trips, because it's automatic and very
safe car, I once was crashed by a small truck and almost
had nothing, while the truck had a big hit, not even had
to call the insurance, because the prime was higher than
the repairs.


The big problem is that being automatic you can't
brake with the motor, so it's not safe to return from the
mountains because it's a very long and radical slope,
usually the brakes are hot and stop to work, so I have to
stop for an hour in any small town until the breaks get
cold again. 


For the city I have a Mazda 323 F year 2002, a pretty
car but not remotely good in comparison with all the
previous.


Iván

Cheap shock therapy or:
Overweight passenger with a flaming buttocks!!! Not to
mention the fuel-spewing snake-like hoses!! I love it!
Great stuff.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 18 2005 at 19:26
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

I learned the trades of the road,
late 70's, on an Impala of the Sixties , a rust bucket.
Drove it into the ground. Then got a Mazda GLC
(manual transmission - much more fun) which I totalled
rather fast(my only serious accident) then drove a
Honda Accord (late 70's model) for a while but wanted to
get serious: first a 68 Firebird for two years (sold it
to a friend but never knew what he did with the car) then
a 75 240 Z Datsun (now Nissan - which I got rid to a
collectioner) then an 87 5.0 V8 Ford Mustang. Sold
it as I moved back to Europe.


 



In Europe, I bought the 91 Ford Escort RXi , than for
budget reasons bought a crappy Nissan sunny from the
sister-in-law but that only gave me problems. I am
getting rid of my Rover 216 to get the new 1,8 Saab 93 .


Although European cars are more fun to drive, I must
say that I have not had that many good experiences,
yet.


I've only owned american made cars, not because of
quality issues (god knows) but because that's all I could
afford at the time.In the US it's very expensive to
maintain a "forign" car.
I remember the Impala. That was a hip car when I was
growing up. I had a 73' Monte Carlo with the 350 motor.
Of course that was in 1985 so I was a little behind the
curve.
Peace,
..and don't crash!!!

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My first car, a 1965 Chrysler New Yorker, died at the hands of an inebriated Pollack. Me. 1980. I was 18 and partying with the boyz. Swilling cheap Polka Party beer at the local PCRU. My buds and I heard that some kids were screwin' 'round one guyz house, so we took off after 'em. at 70 miles an hour i came to a zip-zag intersection. I zigged a bit, but didn't zag quite enough and pile-drived the grill into a twenty foot tree and changed my life forever. The next day I joined the Air Force and left my buds behind. The car cost me $20.00 bucks to tow it to a junk yard.  I had just spent $125.00 installing a new Audiovox 8 track and two Jensen 8x10 speakers.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 19 2005 at 02:43

Sythguy wrote:

Quote Cheap shock therapy or:
Overweight passenger with a flaming buttocks!!! Not to
mention the fuel-spewing snake-like hoses!! I love it!
Great stuff.

Hey Synth, everything I told you that happens in the VW is absolutely truth, I'm a personal witness of the problem with the seat, because of this common problem they started after 1974 to put a plastic cap over the positive (red) pole of the battery.

The other two problems were very often and I'm also sure about that because my father was Sales Manager of VW in Perú for many years, so he warned me aboout those problems, he even asked the mechanic to place a metal ring around the hose to secure it.

This problems never existed while my country imported VW from Germany, I can't remember if my bug was 72 or 73 so I'm not sure if it was Peruvian or Brazilian,

After I read your comments I checked the net and  found the exact case that happened in my car's back seat:

Quote

Do you know where the car battery is in a VW Beetle? Beetles are funny cars. They have the engine at the back instead of the front, and they have the battery under the back seat You can pull out the seat part if you want to get at the battery.

The journey was going along fine all morning. The two ladies were sitting in the back. As we were getting toward noon, we had to travel over some pretty bumpy road so the people in the back bounced around a lot. Unfortunately, the lady sitting on top of where the battery was not the type you could call slim and light weight, if you understand what I mean. 

 Around lunch time we got hungry, and since we had brought along some lunch, I found a shady spot in a school yard to pull off the road so we could eat. It was just as we pulled to a halt that we noticed the smoke pouring out from under the back seat. "Everybody out, Quick! " We all leaped out of the car and started pulling the baggage off the back seat out onto the ground. Just as it was all out, the worst thing happened -the seat burst into flames.

I stood there, watching my car on fire, and thought to myself, "Well, there it goes. I have lost the car. It will burn completely now and there is nothing we can do. "But Raphael wasn't thinking that way at all. He was brave and clear headed, and he knew that you can pull the bottom part of the back seat right out of a Beetle, so he went right inside the burning car, grabbed the seat by a part that wasn't burning yet,and pulled with all his might The seat came out and he threw it away from the car. Then he jumped inside again and beat out the flames still coming from the battery with his shoes.

Well, the car was saved. He grabbed the fire extinguisher from the front seat and went to put out the burning backseat. He got that out too, but meanwhile, it had started a grass fire. Christmas is in the dry season and there was a lot of tall dry grass around that had started burning merrily.

We three ladies had wakened up by this time so we got some big sticks and a couple of pieces of iron sheeting lying around and started beating at the burning grass, until we got all the fire put out at last. At this point we decided to have lunch. There is nothing like having something to eat while you are deciding what to do. SO we ate, and I was wondering if the car would still go. The next thing we had to do was inspect the damage.

The battery had a hole burned in the top of it. It must have caught fire when the metal springs of the seat came in contact with the terminals during the bumpy ride.

http://www.faithissues.ca/Kids/MissionaryStories/CarCaughtFi re.asp 

Another report of the same problem:

Quote Most important is the method of retaining the new battery, which will be larger than the original. Loose batteries flopping around under VW rear seats have been known to short out and start fires. Don't even consider tempting fate by leaving the battery loose. http://www.clubvw.org.au/archive_of_previous_stories_from.ht m

And a report of a very similar problem with the carburator and gas leaks:

Quote

And lastly, there is a known problem with the connection of the line to the carb. Many a VW has burned to a charred shell because of this. The brass fitting to which the fuel line attaches on the carb is just pressed in to the carb body, just above the bowl. Often, this fitting pops off and the pump floods fuel all over the top of the engine block. In the running engine, it is sucked up into the fan and creates ample fumes. The fuel also will drip down over the heads and hot exhaust manifolds and POOF!. Gravity insures a steady flow of fuel to feed the fire once the rubber lines burn through. Pretty scary. http://www.thebugshop.org/bsfqfuel.htm

You see my friend, this problems are  common.

Iván



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Ivan is 100% correct. When my '73 went up in flames, the back seat was already charred from that exact situation. Though it doesn't take an overweight person...just anyone with enough mass to lower the metal springs the inch or two to the exposed battery terminals! That horsehair they stuff the seats with goes up like the best kindling ever...most VW shops sell non-conductive battery covers for just this problem.

When mine finally burned, though, it was the fuel line that was the culprit. I miss that little car...though in retrospect we spent a bit too much quality time together, often by the side of the road.  But then again, after a year or so I was able fix just about any problem it threw at me, as well as lift the engine up and out by myself- there aren't too many other cars about which I could say either of those things.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 20 2005 at 17:00
Originally posted by ivan_2068 ivan_2068 wrote:

Sythguy wrote:

Quote Cheap
shock therapy or: Overweight passenger with a flaming
buttocks!!! Not to mention the fuel-spewing snake-like
hoses!! I love it! Great stuff.


Hey Synth, everything I told you that happens in the
VW is absolutely truth, I'm a personal witness of the
problem with the seat, because of this common problem
they started after 1974 to put a plastic cap over the
positive (red) pole of the battery.


The other two problems were very often and I'm also
sure about that because my father was Sales Manager of VW
in Perú for many years, so he warned me aboout those
problems, he even asked the mechanic to place a metal
ring around the hose to secure it.


This problems never existed while my country imported
VW from Germany, I can't remember if my bug was 72 or 73
so I'm not sure if it was Peruvian or Brazilian,


After I read your comments I checked the net and
 found the exact case that happened in my car's back
seat:


Quote


<P align=left ="Childrens">Do you know where the car
battery is in a VW Beetle? Beetles are funny cars. They
have the engine at the back instead of the front, and
they have the battery under the back seat You can pull
out the seat part if you want to get at the battery.


<P align=left ="Childrens">The journey was going along
fine all morning. The two ladies were sitting in the
back. As we were getting toward noon, we had to travel
over some pretty bumpy road so the people in the back
bounced around a lot. Unfortunately, the lady sitting on
top of where the battery was not the type you could call
slim and light weight, if you understand what I
mean. 


<P align=left ="Childrens"> Around lunch time we got
hungry, and since we had brought along some lunch, I
found a shady spot in a school yard to pull off the road
so we could eat. It was just as we pulled to a halt that
we noticed the smoke pouring out from under the back
seat. "Everybody out, Quick! " We all leaped out of the
car and started pulling the baggage off the back seat out
onto the ground. Just as it was all out, the worst thing
happened -the seat burst into flames.


<P align=left ="Childrens">I stood there, watching my car
on fire, and thought to myself, "Well, there it goes. I
have lost the car. It will burn completely now and there
is nothing we can do. "But Raphael wasn't thinking that
way at all. He was brave and clear headed, and he knew
that you can pull the bottom part of the back seat right
out of a Beetle, so he went right inside the burning car,
grabbed the seat by a part that wasn't burning yet,and
pulled with all his might The seat came out and he threw
it away from the car. Then he jumped inside again and
beat out the flames still coming from the battery with
his shoes.


<P align=left ="Childrens">Well, the car was saved. He
grabbed the fire extinguisher from the front seat and
went to put out the burning backseat. He got that out
too, but meanwhile, it had started a grass fire.
Christmas is in the dry season and there was a lot of
tall dry grass around that had started burning
merrily.


<P align=left ="Childrens">We three ladies had wakened up
by this time so we got some big sticks and a couple of
pieces of iron sheeting lying around and started beating
at the burning grass, until we got all the fire put out
at last. At this point we decided to have lunch. There is
nothing like having something to eat while you are
deciding what to do. SO we ate, and I was wondering if
the car would still go. The next thing we had to do was
inspect the damage.


<P align=left ="Childrens">The battery had a hole
burned in the top of it. It must have caught fire when
the metal springs of the seat came in contact with the
terminals during the bumpy ride.


<P align=left
="Childrens">ryStories/CarCaughtFire.asp">http://www.faithissues.ca/Kid
s/MissionaryStories/CarCaughtFi re.asp
 


<P align=left ="Childrens">Another report of the same
problem:


<P align=left ="Childrens">
Quote Most important is the
method of retaining the new battery, which will be larger
than the original. Loose batteries flopping around under
VW rear seats have been known to short out and start
fires. Don't even consider tempting fate by leaving the
battery loose.
_from.htm">
http://www.clubvw.org.au/archive_of_previous_stories_from
.ht m


<P align=left ="Childrens">And a report of a very similar
problem with the carburator and gas leaks:


<P align=left ="Childrens">
Quote


<FONT face="Comic Sans MS">And lastly, there is a
known problem with the connection of the line to the
carb. Many a VW has burned to a charred shell because of
this. The brass fitting to which the fuel line attaches
on the carb is just pressed in to the carb body, just
above the bowl. Often, this fitting pops off and the pump
floods fuel all over the top of the engine block. In the
running engine, it is sucked up into the fan and creates
ample fumes. The fuel also will drip down over the heads
and hot exhaust manifolds and POOF!. Gravity insures a
steady flow of fuel to feed the fire once the rubber
lines burn through. Pretty scary.
http://www.th
ebugshop.org/bsfqfuel.htm


<P align=left ="Childrens">


<P align=left ="Childrens">You see my friend, this
problems are  common.


<P align=left ="Childrens">Iván


Ivan,
I think you misunderstood me. When I said "great stuff"
I meant that I thought it was a funny story. Never
doubted it for a second. Gotta love those engineers.
Peace.

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MY UNCLE had a Mini Metro (1982) it fell into bit inside!.

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