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DallasBryan
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Topic: ELO? Posted: April 18 2007 at 00:45 |
Eldorado is one of the 5 best concept albums produced in the 70's! Not excluding the 80/90/00's which couldnt produce one in the top 5(not because of artistic input, but due to recording companies nazi tactics).
Do you have anything to say positive about the musical genius Jeff Lynne's late 60's and early 70's musical career?
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Posted: April 18 2007 at 04:06 |
Sure. Loved ELO since i discovered them in my mom and dad's record collection when I was six. I love Eldorado too .Its not a flawless concept album, but the atmosphere and mood the whole album through is pretty close to perfect. Strange magic!
Prefer their early stuff, but I dig pretty much every album they released, including '81's Time. Always great arrangements and nice singlehits.
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Posted: April 18 2007 at 14:05 |
DallasBryan wrote:
Eldorado is one of the 5 best concept albums produced in the 70's! Not excluding the 80/90/00's which couldnt produce one in the top 5(not because of artistic input, but due to recording companies nazi tactics).
Do you have anything to say positive about the musical genius Jeff Lynne's late 60's and early 70's musical career? |
The two Move Albums that Lynne, Wood & Bevan did together are pretty good. When I first started filling out my ELO back catalogue (I had Elderado & New World Record), I did some web searches for reviews and such & came across a site that incorporated the Move, ELO, Roy Wood, & Jeff Lynne discographies & bios all in one place. It seems that when Lynne first joined with Wood, the idea was to complete the Move's record deal for two more "Move" LPs (contractual obligations, eh), but essentially use the money made from that to finance the first ELO albums. So on the Move albums, you'd have more mainstream type late 60s/early 70s rock , & starting after the Move album Looking On, the three would start work on what eventually became the first two ELO albums, which is where Lynne & Wood would put their more "experimental" concepts to work. If you like Beatle-ish music with a Bonzo Dog band slant, you'll likely enjoy Looking On & Message from the Country.
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Posted: April 18 2007 at 14:11 |
Rocktopus wrote:
Sure. Loved ELO since i discovered them in my mom and dad's record collection when I was six. I love Eldorado too .Its not a flawless concept album, but the atmosphere and mood the whole album through is pretty close to perfect. Strange magic!
Prefer their early stuff, but I dig pretty much every album they released, including '81's Time. Always great arrangements and nice singlehits.
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I kinda quit at Out of the Blue. I enjoyed the singles from the album, but felt that Lynne had fell into a formula. I never bothered with Time, so I gotta ask you if it's a return to their earlier glory days (with more modern production I assume) ? P.S. Hogan the mixed Dauschaund says Hi ...
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Posted: April 18 2007 at 14:15 |
I love ELO, I just love them. Face The Music especially. It was my first album from them. Really a band worth recognising!
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Posted: April 18 2007 at 15:48 |
I prefer the first three albums to ElDorado, which I find a little light (as in not weighing much rather than in watts). I also quit completely after Out Of The Blue. This was way too formulaic for me, but I must say that they still knew how to write pop songs.
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Posted: April 18 2007 at 15:52 |
ood orning!
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Posted: April 18 2007 at 16:06 |
I like many of thier "non-hits" able to see them many times in concert (yes I'm an old fart)
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Posted: April 18 2007 at 21:33 |
Sean Trane wrote:
I prefer the first three albums to ElDorado, which I find a little light (as in not weighing much rather than in watts). I also quit completely after Out Of The Blue. This was way too formulaic for me, but I must say that they still knew how to write pop songs. |
In that case, you may want to check out the Move's Message from the Country. This was Lynne & Wood's last album before they put their all into ELO.
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Posted: April 19 2007 at 16:36 |
Love them to bits - my own favourite ELO album is "A New World Record" just for Mission and So Fine, both brilliant tracks.
I've got everything they did up to Time (even Xanadu!!!)
Great, great band and deserving of more credit than the "poor-man's Beatles" tag they got slapped with.
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Posted: April 20 2007 at 08:26 |
pantacruelgruel wrote:
Rocktopus wrote:
Sure. Loved ELO since i discovered them in my mom and dad's record collection when I was six. I love Eldorado too .Its not a flawless concept album, but the atmosphere and mood the whole album through is pretty close to perfect. Strange magic!
Prefer their early stuff, but I dig pretty much every album they released, including '81's Time. Always great arrangements and nice singlehits.
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I kinda quit at Out of the Blue. I enjoyed the singles from the album, but felt that Lynne had fell into a formula. I never bothered with Time, so I gotta ask you if it's a return to their earlier glory days (with more modern production I assume) ?
P.S. Hogan the mixed Dauschaund says Hi ...
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Hi. Sort of, its a its a silly sci-fi love story, concept album. a mixture of beatle'esque tracks and 80's electropop, sounds surprisingly litte dated. Only one or two real stinkers. Gotta post the lyrics (well, some of it) from my favorite song when I was six. Yours Truly 2095
2095, 2095, 2095, 2095 I love you, sincerely Yours truly, yours truly...
Shes only programmed to be very nice But shes as cold as ice Whenever I get too near She tells me that she likes me very much But when I try to touch She makes it all too clear.
She is the latest in technology Almost mythology But she has a heart stone She has an i.q. of 1001 She has a jumpsuit on And shes also a telephone.
Edited by Rocktopus - April 20 2007 at 08:27
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Posted: April 21 2007 at 02:39 |
They are good time fun. I like Jeff's ultra-beatles influenced tunes. Even the Discovery album is enjoyable.
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Posted: April 21 2007 at 10:54 |
ELO ca. '73. Man, they sure knew how to dress too! No comment. From their brilliant Barock 'n' Roll debut.
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Posted: April 21 2007 at 16:08 |
Are the early albums very different from their later hit single material?
I only know their hits, which I like to hear from time to time, but I wouldn't buy an album from their hit period. I like Mr. Blue Sky a lot though.
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Posted: April 21 2007 at 16:15 |
I remember opposing to their inclusion a couple years ago, but not because I don't like them, I love most of their albums, from El Dorado to A New World Record, still I believe they are only Prog Related but it's a matter of degrees, I enjoy all their music very much.
The only ones I can't stand are Discovery and Xanadu, specially the last one the combination ELP + Olivia Newton John simply is contradictory IMO.
Iván
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Posted: April 21 2007 at 20:49 |
All three ELO albums pre-Eldorado are prog.Their debut (No Answer) and their third (On the third Day) album are both brilliant.
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Posted: April 22 2007 at 03:04 |
Rocktopus wrote:
All three ELO albums pre-Eldorado are prog.Their debut (No Answer) and their third (On the third Day) album are both brilliant.
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Thanks, that's what I needed to know.
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Posted: April 23 2007 at 21:33 |
Moogtron III wrote:
Rocktopus wrote:
All three ELO albums pre-Eldorado are prog.Their debut (No Answer) and their third (On the third Day) album are both brilliant.
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Thanks, that's what I needed to know. |
I'll add to that my earlier recommendation of the Move's last album "Message from the Country".
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Moogtron III
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Posted: April 24 2007 at 03:03 |
pantacruelgruel wrote:
Moogtron III wrote:
Rocktopus wrote:
All three ELO albums pre-Eldorado are prog.Their debut (No Answer) and their third (On the third Day) album are both brilliant.
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Thanks, that's what I needed to know. |
I'll add to that my earlier recommendation of the Move's last album "Message from the Country".
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I did try out a Roy Wood solo album once, called "Boulders", which is supposed to be good. I can see that Wood is talented, but somehow the album doesn't work for me.
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Posted: May 02 2007 at 20:52 |
Moogtron III wrote:
pantacruelgruel wrote:
Moogtron III wrote:
Rocktopus wrote:
All three ELO albums pre-Eldorado are prog.Their debut (No Answer) and their third (On the third Day) album are both brilliant.
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Thanks, that's what I needed to know. |
I'll add to that my earlier recommendation of the Move's last album "Message from the Country".
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I did try out a Roy Wood solo album once, called "Boulders", which is supposed to be good. I can see that Wood is talented, but somehow the album doesn't work for me. |
Try the last two Move albums. They show him at his peak, and also working with a sympathetic up & comer such as Jeff Lynne.
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