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progadicto 
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 Topic: The Last Album
Posted: March 21 2007 at 14:33 |
After almost two years as member of PA I had read a lot of reviews and posts on forums bashing or despising albums made by great prog bands at late 70's or during 80's and 90's.
So my question is which bands would have to stop in a determinate moment? I mean, which is the last album that some bands had to release? Some Pink Floyd fans agree that PF dies after Waters left... ELP never had to release Love Beach nor the next albums... The last Yes album had to be Drama... Genesis has to stop after Duke... There is a lot of examples so I want to know which is your opinion about this.-
Best regards
ProgAdicto.-
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Penumbra
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Posted: March 21 2007 at 14:53 |
Oooh I love "what if" put down threads.  I believe Yes should have stopped after Relayer, as Going for the One annoys the bejeezus out of me in many ways. Perhaps if they just made "Magnification" in 1977, using Awaken instead of a few others from that 2001 album, I'd have said "stop there". Still, 1977 is my cut off point for Yes. Emerson, Lake & Palmer: Obviously, just a few seconds before one of the three - likely drunk and annoyed at the studios by this point - said "say, let's make another album!" in 1977. Genesis: 1977, Wind and Wuthering. Everything after starts become used in bars and lounges and dance clubs. Please shoot me now! Jethro Tull: The Ministrel in the Gallery, 1975. After that, it became folky, which is quite good, but doesn't exactly fit here. Pink Floyd: The Final Cut (1983) doesn't do that much for me. I'd have cut it off at Animals, speaking from a pure progressive point of view. Of course, if that'd happened, "Comfortably Numb" would be gone, and thousands of teenage guitarists would kill themselves for an unknown reason. Tangerine Dream: The moment Stratosfear was released in 1976, I believe they should have called it a day. Adding guitar and harmonica (!) to the pure ecstacy of Phaedra and Rubycon to make Stratosfear just did it for me. Force Majeure of 1979 has some moments, but there are guitar solos! Not what I'd like in the Berlin School.
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memowakeman
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Posted: March 21 2007 at 15:00 |
First: I love your favorite band of the week 
Second: We as a music followers wish that our favorite artists made always great albums in order to please us, since they are human beings are every mind is different, it´s impossible to follow the same line through all the years. I also take "Drama" as the last Yes wonder, but when some artist release a bad/weak album, besides being dissapointed i am always expecting for a new one which suppossely will be better than the latest.
For example after several years of "average" albums, PFM released one of their best albums ever "Stati di Immaginazione", so when i listen to "Ulisse" or "Serendipity" i would have probably said that "why did they made that albums, they should have stopped", but now i say..."thanks they didn´t stop, and i want another Stati!!"
Just my opinion.
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Easy Livin
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Posted: March 21 2007 at 15:02 |
Reminds me of some old polls:
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Posted: March 21 2007 at 18:50 |
Of course, I will only comment on bands I like enough to be familiar with most of their discography.
Genesis should have stopped after Duke
Yes should have stopped after Going For The One, because I found Tormato awful
Rush have never stopped, and that is good! No bad albums from them!
Pink Floyd should have stopped after Wish You Were Here; Animals was very weak, IMO. I would miss The Wall though if it wasn't there.
King Crimson and ELP - should never have started in the first place! (Sorry, couldn't resist that!)
Of modern bands,
Marillion have been fairly consistent, with only a couple of clangers.
TFK have yet (IMO) to release anything approaching a bad album.
And ditto for Porcupine Tree.
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Ben2112
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Posted: March 21 2007 at 19:52 |
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Surprised no one has mentioned the lamentable end of Gentle Giant's career. IMO they should have called it a day after Playing The Fool and let that incredible live album send them off triumphantly into the sunset. But hindsight is 20/20 and objectively, there was no reason for them to quit at this time since they had just produced a brillant, though underrated studio album and I'm sure they weren't exactly swimming in money.
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Posted: March 21 2007 at 19:57 |
Pink Floyd should have stopped after "Piper."  Rush should have stopped with Permanent Waves, or Signals at the latest. Yes at Drama. Zeppelin at Presence. Marillion at Jester's.
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Penumbra
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Posted: March 21 2007 at 20:09 |
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Finnforest, you scathe us with your hatred :P
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Posted: March 21 2007 at 20:23 |
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hate is good =P
as far as I care, Genesis stopped after Lamb, Yes stopped after Relayer, Gentle Giant stopped after Interview etc etc etc. I don't torture myself over the fact that they all produce complete sh
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Losendos
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Posted: March 21 2007 at 20:27 |
Genesis with Duke
Yes with Going for the One
Pink Floyd with Animals
ELP with Brain Salad Surgery
Jethro Tull with Heavy Horses
Camel with Raindances
If they had left it there we would have asked why did they quit ? rather than saying why do they keep going?
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Progger
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Posted: March 21 2007 at 20:32 |
Genesis from Genesis To Revelation
Pink Floyd from The Final Cut
Yes from Talk
ELP from Works vol 1
Rush from Moving Pictures
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zappaholic
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Posted: March 21 2007 at 21:06 |
Somebody I used to know had a tendency to misuse the word "hiatus". He used it as an adjective when describing albums - he would say "this is [fill in band]'s hiatus album". I took it to mean the album after which the band should have taken a permanent hiatus.
That's what this discussion reminds me of.....
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Posted: March 22 2007 at 07:40 |
That's good nobody stopped making music.
80's/90's albums from these artists were not as good as before???? so what????
It was that or for them to look for another career as a supermarket aisle manager or bank teller?
I'll take ''ASIA ''or ''CresT OF A KNIVE'' or ''KEYS to ASCENSION'' everyday yhan having M. jACKSON or Hair Metal as only music companions.in the 80's
To have Wetton, Jon and Ian Anderson keep going in the following decades still allowed me to stay with my childhood ''heroes'' and in a certain way stay young and relevant.  Thus these artists have a life too, family to feed and like everybody else have the right
to think on a good retirement plan.
The magic might be gone, but they're still around and that's what counts!!1
Who are we here to think they should have stopped after this or that album????? 
Presently lisrening to JOHN WETTON ''Agenda''-year 2005-  |
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: March 22 2007 at 08:04 |
E.L.P. should never have formed in the first place.
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el böthy
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Posted: March 22 2007 at 13:07 |
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I think Yes should continue, Magnification is a proof of that! They still can make incredible music
King Crimson must never stop jajajaj, as easy as that
Genesis should have said godbye after And then there were three... but on the other hand, the Collins Genesis did some good pop music...cant deny that
ELP should have quite after making BSS jajajja, they would have been some sort of Legend for it
Pink Floyd should NEVER even think of continue without Waters
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cookieacquired
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Posted: March 22 2007 at 13:23 |
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this just really makes me want to say that Floyd should've stopped after they got over commercial (i.e. The Wall) and tried to reinvent themselves
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Draconean
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Posted: March 22 2007 at 16:57 |
Well, bands such as Yes, Genesis, Pink Floyd, Rush have already been mentioned a lot in this thread, so I'll go for some less obvious examples:
- Queen should have stopped after ANATO (however Innuendo was musically a comeback)
- 10cc after Sheet Music
- Wishbone Ash after Argus
- Supertramp after Even In The Quietest Moments
- Manfred Mann's Earth Band after Nightingales & Bombers
- Earth & Fire after To The World Of The Future
- Hawkwind after Warrior On The Edge Of Time
- Iron Butterfly after In-a-gadda-da-vida
- Uriah Heep after The Magician's Birthday
- Deep Purple after Come Taste The Band
- ELO after Out Of The Blue
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Progger
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Posted: March 22 2007 at 17:24 |
 Geck0 wrote:
E.L.P. should never have formed in the first place. |
Looking at your play list I don't think your qualified to make such a comment 
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Tommy
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Posted: March 22 2007 at 18:51 |
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The most obvious choice would be King Crimson after Red. After that they were no more than the Robert Fripp band and his avany garde out of tune noodlings!
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Shakespeare
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Posted: March 22 2007 at 19:17 |
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Babe Ruth should have stopped after their debut!
Most (or at least a LOT of bands should have called it quits at some
point) but one of the few bands that are still sitting on their
plateau, and never should quit, is King Crimson. They never went
commercial, or anything atrocious like that.
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