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bucka001
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Topic: Peter Hammill in The Wire magazine Posted: February 22 2007 at 13:06 |
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The new issue of The Wire has a lengthy article on PH/VdGG.
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Dick Heath
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Posted: February 22 2007 at 13:27 | |
That is a real change - I stopped subscribing to the Wire after a prolonged tirade against prog 10 years ago. Interesting to see the UK's best selling jazz magazine, Jazzwise, has a full review of Jakko Jakszyk's The Bruised Romantic Glee Club in March's edition and rates it most highly.
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Posted: February 22 2007 at 13:31 | |
VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: February 22 2007 at 13:46 | |
Thanks for that, Jim. Any ideas if the article will turn up on Phil's site eventually?
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bucka001
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Posted: February 22 2007 at 15:40 | |
It's possible Phil may put it up. Not sure (I'm sure he probably hasn't even seen it yet).
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: February 22 2007 at 16:03 | |
Cool, it's just I doubt I'll get to see it in the magazine itself, hence my query.
Are you going to be at the Barbican, Jim? If so, I'll be there. I'll say hello if I see you. |
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bucka001
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Posted: February 22 2007 at 16:06 | |
No, I think I'm going to see VdGG in Amsterdam and Verviers this time around. Would have loved to go to London the following night but just can't do it this time.
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: February 22 2007 at 16:12 | |
Ah, my friend Debby is going to Verviers and someone else I know from PA is going to Amsterdam. Hopefully you'll all witness some wonderful gigs.
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superprog
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Posted: February 23 2007 at 01:27 | |
Dick Heath wrote:
That is a real change - I stopped subscribing to the Wire after a prolonged tirade against prog 10 years ago. Interesting to see the UK's best selling jazz magazine, Jazzwise, has a full review of Jakko Jakszyk's The Bruised Romantic Glee Club in March's edition and rates it most highly. hahaha the prob w Wire-folks is they're a buncha left-wing bleedin hearts rooted in that whole punk-destroyed-prog nonsense (ok i admit i used to be like that too) so its good they start re-waking their ideas on prog. BUT don't expect 'em to start liking Yes, Camel or Weather Report anytime soon hehehe........they'll just stick to VDGG (cmon Jonny rotten liked them right?), King Crimson, electric Miles and Mwandishi-era Herbie Hancock. And Krautrock of course. |
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Mascodagama
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Posted: February 23 2007 at 09:06 | |
I used to subscribe in the early nineties. There did seem to be rather a lot of self-satisfied t**sers writing for the magazine in those days. I mean the type who would pride themselves on being musically open-minded, but for whom it was an unstated fact that there were whole areas of music debarred from consideration because they weren't cool enough. Edited by Mascodagama - February 23 2007 at 09:13 |
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Dick Heath
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Posted: February 23 2007 at 12:16 | |
The Wire seemd to go through that phase I refer to, where only musicians (indeed professional musicians), were the only worthy reviewers of albums and gigs. A real pity was the they could rarely explain why an album was good to them, without employing a level of technical language which was beyond my grasp - i.e. a small minority were talking/writing amongst and for themselves. No wonder, many of the albums listed had so few buyers.and ten years later totally forgotten.
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bucka001
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Posted: February 24 2007 at 08:20 | |
I have to agree with most of what's been said here on this topic. Just because there's an article on Hammill in The Wire doesn't mean they've taken a suddenly friendly view toward prog. I too remember that issue (it was actually spread out over two issues, I believe) from ten or more years ago which was a condenscending A - Z of prog bands. But even then they were the kindest toward VdGG and Crimson, basically saying that they were the only two prog bands whose music still stands up. And even though he sells the least amount of product among the prog heavyweights, Hammill is more of a critic's darling than any of them (he's been getting glowing press over the last few years in all of the major British/European music rags - for example, anyone remember Uncut calling VdGG the "coolest, strangest band in prog" last year?). So The Wire probably feels they can run a major PH/VdGG article and not risk their reputation because PH is hipper and more respected than prog in general (in the media's eyes). He's also one of the only major proggers who has won the respect of artists who usually hate prog (John Lydon, Julian Cope, Mark E Smith [The Fall], Dave Thomas [Pere Ubu], Jello Biafra [Dead Kennedys], Nick Cave, etc).
'Superprog' was right - you can expect to see Hammill, Can, Scott Walker, and Faust in The Wire, but it'll be a cold day in you-know-where before you'll get any coverage of Jon Anderson, Uriah Heep, or Gentle Giant.
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