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sheeves 
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Posted: February 05 2007 at 17:20 |
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i think their innovative style and fantastic live shows makes them prog, especially do to Jimmy Page's different techniques with the guitar, such as using a bow on a guitar and using a doubleneck.
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Posted: February 05 2007 at 17:22 |
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I would say definitely and absolutely.......NOT!
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richardh
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Posted: February 05 2007 at 17:24 |
No ..but then neither are Queen. 
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Posted: February 05 2007 at 17:29 |
 richardh wrote:
No ..but then neither are Queen.
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You mean that Queen aren't Prog? 
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tuxon
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Posted: February 05 2007 at 17:57 |
Stupid notion not to consider Queen prog. Just listen to My Fairy king, March Of the Black Queen, Killer Queen, Bohemian Rhapsody, Millionaire waltz, Bicicle race, Innuendo and I´m Going Slightly mad and than make the same statement again, and while your at it, listen to Mr Bad Guy and The Golden Boy from F. Mercury´s soloi albums, maybe listen to Radio GaGa aswell, for there is some progressive stuff in there aswell.
Queen is as progressive as ELP, YES and GENESIS were, they just started selling out before Yes and Genesis did )ELP sold out before Queen and ELP was an influence for Queen )listen to Brain salad Surgery and than to Queen II .
anyway led Zeppelin aren´t progressive rock.
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Posted: February 05 2007 at 17:59 |
tuxon wrote:
Stupid notion not to consider Queen prog. Just listen to My Fairy king, March Of the Black Queen, Killer Queen, Bohemian Rhapsody, Millionaire waltz, Bicicle race, Innuendo and I´m Going Slightly mad and than make the same statement again, and while your at it, listen to Mr Bad Guy and The Golden Boy from F. Mercury´s soloi albums, maybe listen to Radio GaGa aswell, for there is some progressive stuff in there aswell.
Queen is as progressive as ELP, YES and GENESIS were, they just started selling out before Yes and Genesis did )ELP sold out before Queen and ELP was an influence for Queen )listen to Brain salad Surgery and than to Queen II .
anyway led Zeppelin aren´t progressive rock. |
Yes, yes yes I have heard everything by Queen...and?
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tuxon
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Posted: February 05 2007 at 18:03 |
Snow Dog wrote:
tuxon wrote:
Stupid notion not to consider Queen prog. Just listen to My Fairy king, March Of the Black Queen, Killer Queen, Bohemian Rhapsody, Millionaire waltz, Bicicle race, Innuendo and I´m Going Slightly mad and than make the same statement again, and while your at it, listen to Mr Bad Guy and The Golden Boy from F. Mercury´s soloi albums, maybe listen to Radio GaGa aswell, for there is some progressive stuff in there aswell.
Queen is as progressive as ELP, YES and GENESIS were, they just started selling out before Yes and Genesis did )ELP sold out before Queen and ELP was an influence for Queen )listen to Brain salad Surgery and than to Queen II .
anyway led Zeppelin aren´t progressive rock. |
Yes, yes yes I have heard everything by Queen...and?
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what and, so you say that the listed songs are not progressive songs
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keith_emerson
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Posted: February 05 2007 at 18:04 |
Led Z: Not progressive Queen: Not progresive (it's stupid to think the opposite )
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Tony R
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Posted: February 05 2007 at 18:07 |
This is a wind up right?
Visit the site's definition of Prog Rock here:
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Posted: February 05 2007 at 19:28 |
LZ is good, but not prog by any means. That doesn't make them any less of a band though!  Queen has a few songs that have a dash of progressive added to the mixture.. But they aren't prog either.
Edited by giantenemycrab - February 05 2007 at 19:55
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Posted: February 05 2007 at 19:50 |
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Not Prog, but progressive. That's why they're in ProgRelated...
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Posted: February 05 2007 at 22:30 |
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and why doesn´t anyone agree with me that Queen where prog, you should know that intelligent answers gets bonus points for your post counts
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Atavachron
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Posted: February 05 2007 at 22:33 |
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Queen did a sort of symphonic pop metal which I loved, but they weren't Prog.
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tuxon
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Posted: February 05 2007 at 22:45 |
final say from me.
anyone doubting Queen´s prog credentials, they should start buying Queen albums.
editą or if you have them listen to them.
Edited by tuxon - February 05 2007 at 23:05
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Snow Dog
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Posted: February 06 2007 at 04:22 |
tuxon wrote:
final say from me.
anyone doubting Queen´s prog credentials, they should start buying Queen albums.
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I don't know what makes you presume that you know Queens material better than anyone else. 
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andu
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Posted: February 06 2007 at 05:01 |
Atavachron wrote:
Not Prog, but progressive. That's why they're in ProgRelated... |
best statement so far.
writing a bunch of prog songs doesn't make a band, any band, prog. however, credit where credit's due, so they're both here.
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Posted: February 06 2007 at 07:07 |
I have already mentioned this on another topic.
Led Zep is absolutely not prog nor prog related.
They have released a few acoustic songs ("Tangerine", "That's The Way", "Going To California", "The Battle Of Evermore", "The Rain Song" ... but this is not making a band prog, right ?
As far as I can remember (my first Led Zep record was the single "Whole A Lotta Love" which I purchased in 1970 NO ONE WOULD EVER MENTIONED THE SLIGHTIEST LINK BETWEEN LED ZEP AND PROGIN THOSE DAYS.
So, since their insertion on PA, all of sudden they should be prog ? Is this a joke ?
I also gave my comments already about "Stairway". The inspiration (to say the least) is a track that is called "Taurus" from the band "Spirit" (it is ever more obvious than "She's So Fine" for "My Sweet Lord" if you see what I mean).
OK, this legendary track (and one of my all time fave rock song) has a vague prog mood (but it is plagiatory, so you can not ).
Is Genesis a hard-rock band because they released "The Knife" and "The Return Of The Giant Hogweed" ? Of course not.
Led Zep is the quintescence of the hard rock genre (and the influence of lots ofheavy metal bands - which I do not like). Forget about prog here.
It is one of the major rock band in history. Period.
But since they are included here I will review their whole wonderful catalogue.
Cheers.
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andu
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Posted: February 06 2007 at 07:31 |
Zowie, you seem to have stumbled almost only over the non relevant sides of this matter. Sorry.
Cheers.
Edited by andu - February 06 2007 at 07:39
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Snow Dog
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Posted: February 06 2007 at 07:33 |
andu wrote:
Zowie, you seem to have stumbled only over the non relevant sides of this matter. Sorry.
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No he hasn't. Look at the thread question. Prog or not. He has answered the query.
Edited by Snow Dog - February 06 2007 at 07:33
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andu
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Posted: February 06 2007 at 07:39 |
Snow Dog wrote:
andu wrote:
Zowie, you seem to have stumbled only over the non relevant sides of this matter. Sorry.
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No he hasn't. Look at the thread question. Prog or not. He has answered the query. |
You're right, Zowie's basic reaction to the thread is correct. Sorry about that. However most of the rest of the comments is uncorrect and irrelevant.
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