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    Posted: January 26 2007 at 14:12
Just wandering through my profile "reviewing my reviews" (pun intended ) and while looking at the McDonald and Giles page I noticed it was under Art Rock. I don't know much about Canterbury but their first (and only) album sounds more like Caravan than King Crimson. Should they be moved?
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Points: 871 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2007 at 17:38
Could be. I recently bought McDonald and Giles. Great album, but I thought it sounded very much like Stackridge. They are under Canterbury I believe.
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Points: 1991 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2007 at 18:52
look on the Art Rock list that's what surprised me; they are not that eclectic (probably because they only released one official album)
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Points: 46833 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2007 at 19:01
Originally posted by Chus Chus wrote:

look on the Art Rock list that's what surprised me; they are not that eclectic (probably because they only released one official album)



neither are bands like Rush and scores of others.... Art Rock is .. like we say in the Art Rock Team Bar and Lounge... the SPCA of prog.  Lots of cute cuddly prog bands just waiting for a home.  Many are eclectic..  many are not. If it doesn't fit anywhere else.. and they are prog.. we get them.
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Points: 46833 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2007 at 19:02
I'll bring this up to the team and see if they should be moved..
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Points: 1991 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2007 at 19:14
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:


Originally posted by Chus Chus wrote:

look on the Art Rock list that's what surprised me; they are not that eclectic (probably because they only released one official album)



neither are bands like Rush and scores of others.... Art Rock is ..
like we say in the Art Rock Team Bar and Lounge... the SPCA of
prog.  Lots of cute cuddly prog bands just waiting for a
home.  Many are eclectic..  many are not. If it doesn't fit
anywhere else.. and they are prog.. we get them.


The "orphanage" of prog, you say?

Thanks for the consideration
       
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Points: 46833 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2007 at 19:16
Originally posted by Chus Chus wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:


Originally posted by Chus Chus wrote:

look on the Art Rock list that's what surprised me; they are not that eclectic (probably because they only released one official album)



neither are bands like Rush and scores of others.... Art Rock is ..
like we say in the Art Rock Team Bar and Lounge... the SPCA of
prog.  Lots of cute cuddly prog bands just waiting for a
home.  Many are eclectic..  many are not. If it doesn't fit
anywhere else.. and they are prog.. we get them.


The "orphanage" of prog, you say?

Thanks for the consideration
       


hahahha.. yeah ..something like that hahaha

no problem though.. I put it to the attention of Raffaella whose the team's Canterbury expert with a link to the thread. She'll get back to you on this.
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Points: 3497 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2007 at 01:15

In my opinion (which nobody cares about) McDonald & Giles belongs to Art Rock category, quite clearly.

Michael Giles' solo album, Progress, may be considered as Canterbury, although I think it fits more the JR/F subgenre.
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Points: 24429 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2007 at 01:28
I don't really think that would be a good move, though I don't know the album. The Canterbury sound is an odd phenomenon, limited in space and time, which had imitators in places other than England (notably with Picchio dal Pozzo and Supersister), but is also very different to pinpoint as an actual 'sound'.

Besides, King Crimson are not the only band included in Art Rock. The category as it is now mainly means 'eclectic', though I suppose a redefinition is in order. As to the matter of Rush... I'm afraid someone is just asking to be kicked out of the team ASAP.LOL
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Points: 1991 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2007 at 22:02
it has clear indication IMO... you should give it a few listens and you'll probably hear what I'm hearing and the reason the move should be considered. Specially in their song "Suite In C" or "Birdman", which contain some free-jazz segments.. the whole mood of the album is jazzy as well
 
 EDIT: I understand that "Canterbury" was referring to the place the event occurred.. but well the guys were from England and I think they had some sort of connection


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Points: 5109 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2007 at 23:50
I do have it, and it does sound like a canterbury influenced version of crimson. I just don't think it is truly of the genre.
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Points: 15585 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 28 2007 at 11:54
I think Ghost Rider's post is spot on. Canterbury is a bit different to the other sub-genres, in that it tends to have a defined membership.
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