The Rockier/Harder side of Jazz Fusion/Jazz Rock |
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NotSoKoolAid
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Topic: The Rockier/Harder side of Jazz Fusion/Jazz Rock Posted: December 09 2006 at 16:24 |
I've heard a large number of Jazz Fusion groups in the past few years especially, new and old, recommended and not. Jazz Fusion/JazzRock is a wide range of music I believe, though the top few dozen Jazz Fusion albums on this website have a very recognizable, familiar, and similar style. They're all very different at the same time obviously, but is there a harder-hitting, more powerful sound out there in the Jazz Fusion world? Where's the aggressive side of Jazz Fusion? Is there such a thing?
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markosherrera
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Posted: December 09 2006 at 16:28 |
colosseum,mahavishnu......
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NotSoKoolAid
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Posted: December 09 2006 at 16:34 |
I've heard all the high-ranked albums on this site. I forgot to mention. Mahavishnu Orchestra was one of my first. Colosseum is also great. |
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Kleynan
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Posted: December 09 2006 at 16:53 |
So you've heard fusion Miles Davis then? Live-Evil is probably his heaviest. Bitches Brew is the best though.
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You've just had a heavy session of electroshock therapy, and you're more relaxed than you've been in weeks. |
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NotSoKoolAid
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Posted: December 09 2006 at 17:21 |
Hey man, It's not THAT heavy. But yes I've heard Bitches Brew. Maybe I'll check out Live-Evil sometime |
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blazno
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Posted: December 09 2006 at 17:45 |
You should try Niacin
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GoldenSpiral
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Posted: December 09 2006 at 17:55 |
Gambale-Hamm-Smith is all I have to say.
oh, and Vital Tech Tones |
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NotSoKoolAid
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Posted: December 09 2006 at 18:01 |
Yes, they're on progarchive's list of best Jazz Fusion. I've heard a live album. |
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samhob
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Posted: December 09 2006 at 18:36 |
Miles Davis - Black Beauty Live At The Fillmore West, Or The Isle Of Wight
Embryo - Steig Aus Annexus Quam - Osmose |
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chamberry
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Posted: December 09 2006 at 20:53 |
Out of Focus. Their debut is pretty hard rocky, but their second album is jazzier (and better)
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Atavachron
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Posted: December 09 2006 at 20:57 |
Planet X - 'Moonbabies' absolutely spectacular progressive jazz metal
Colossueum II - 'Electric Savage' tight and red-hot Return to Forever - 'Romantic Warrior' say no more |
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Howe Protege
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Posted: December 09 2006 at 21:27 |
Planet X
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My favorite pasty faced British pal.
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Dick Heath
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Posted: December 10 2006 at 09:12 |
Niacin, excellent as they are, followed where Jonas Hellborg and the Johansson brothers had been : e (hard Hammond dominated, bass heavy jazz rock fusion) and as the Shining Path with the death metal fusion of No Other World (check out DEM/Bardo Records for both recordings). Hard brass rock/jazz rock fusion, (sorry to repeat myself but) said by many of those who have the record, is the best jazz rock of the 90's, Conrad Schrenk & Extravanganza's Save The Robots (check out Abstractlogix for this difficult to find but IMHO essential album). Located in the wrong place on the PA Electrocution 250 is jazz rock ultra-shred at 250 bpm. 1. Conrad Schrenk: 777 (ex. Save The Robots) - 666 and 888 are other interesting compositions/arrangement by guitarist Schrenk. 3. Fire Merchants: Sybil (ex. Landlords Of Atlantis), Brand X side project(??) - example of what was called 'grunge jazz fusion' in the early 90's. 4. Niacin: Swing Swang Swung (ex. Deep) 5. Electrocution 250: Brainscrapper (ex. Electric Cartoon Music From Hell) 6. The Shining Path: My Turn To Lose (ex. No Other World) 7. Ohm: Searching For The Suicide King (ex. Ohm) - what do you expect with Chris Poland ex Megadeth as lead? 8. Black Light Syndrome: Dark Corners (ex. BLS) - aka Bozzio Levin & Stevens 9. David Fiuczynski: Shafta (ex. Black Cherry Acid Lab). Probably the most interesting of the younger American guitarist around. Also check out his band Scream Headless Torsos. 10. Alkemy: Underwater (ex. Da 63 Project) 11. Gambale, Hamm, Smith: Bad Intent (ex. Show Me What You Can Do) - Stu Hamm better known for collaborations with Vai and Satriani, flexing his fusion muscles in excellent company 12. Shaun Baxter: Make It Reel (ex. Metal Jazz) 13. Heavy Metal Jazz Concepts: What Once Was (ex. Heavy Was A Sweater) 14. Network: Looking Into Space (ex. LNC). Cobham drum technician (etc.) Steve Clarke's Network with a strange hybrid of jazz fusion and Scandanavian death metal - and Jan Hammer apparently playing keys! Examples for the curious on Thursday nights radio show. . Edited by Dick Heath - December 11 2006 at 06:30 |
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fuxi
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Posted: December 10 2006 at 09:18 |
If you're talkin'bout X - There's SONG X by Pat Metheny and Ornette Coleman, VERY hard hitting. Also John Zorn's SPY vs. SPY! |
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Trickster F.
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Posted: December 10 2006 at 09:25 |
I second Ohm, masterliness material right there.
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eugene
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Posted: December 10 2006 at 13:58 |
Liquid tension experiment 1 & 2
Bozzio-Levin-Stevens "Black Light Syndrome" & "Situation Dangerous"
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carefulwiththataxe
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NotSoKoolAid
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 24 2006 Status: Offline Points: 507 |
Posted: December 10 2006 at 17:07 |
I just want to state, as fact, that Conrad Schrenk Extravaganza is amazing.
Thanks everybody for posting! |
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: December 10 2006 at 18:29 |
THe man said the answer |
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Mikerinos
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Posted: December 10 2006 at 19:02 |
Soft Machine - Bundles
Nucleus - We'll Talk About it Later Quiet Sun - Mainstream And I second checking out Embryo ('Steig Aus' and 'Father, Son, and Holy Ghost' are both great). |
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: December 10 2006 at 19:05 |
Quiet Sun - Mainstream
Amazing album and very rocky for jazz rock/fusion. |
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