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    Posted: December 03 2006 at 21:09
i am a huge fan of marillion, and have matured greatly in a musical sense from listening to them. one example is that i am a guitar player and i used to be a HUGE classic rock fan mainly because it was all guitar driven. prog has helped me escape my guitar shackles and experiance many new types of music.

so getting back to my main point, i was watching marillion's marbles dvd.. or was it brave.. i dont remember it was a while ago.. anyways i noticed that rothery was playing a squier. now i've been playing guitar for about 4 years now and i know a decent amount about guitars, and a squier is not one for professional musicians to use. i dont think its a bad guitar, i play one occasionally and i love it most of the time (my primary guitar is a gibson sg).

anyone else find it somewhat funny that a glorious musician like rothery uses a guitar built for beginners? or is there some secret meaning behind it that i'm not aware of?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 03 2006 at 21:19
I think Clapton played a Squire back in the 80's.

Also, I wonder if Rothers has tinkered with it. Didn't Squire's have those smooth white pick-ups. For all we know it could be just the shell of the Squier.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 03 2006 at 21:21
On the From Stokes Row to Ipanema DVD I think he uses a Strat, but I do remember that on Recital of the Script he had a Squier, maybe it's just his vintage guitar?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 03 2006 at 21:27
I've noticed that he primarily uses the black Squire for the older material, and breaks out the Blade sunburst for the newer material.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 03 2006 at 21:30
yeah i've noticed that too e-dub. and you're right, it could just be the shell.. i mean he had to have customized it a little bit. maybe its like a little joke or something, idk. i think its great though, because i have an sg, and my friend was trying to get rid of her squier, so i told her i would take it. she thought i was crazy because i already had a perfectly great guitar.. but i was just like "my boy steve uses one, they're not THAT bad". and they're really not.Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 03 2006 at 21:38
Originally posted by MaReam GeneTree MaReam GeneTree wrote:

yeah i've noticed that too e-dub. and you're right, it could just be
the shell.. i mean he had to have customized it a little bit. maybe its
like a little joke or something, idk. i think its great though, because
i have an sg, and my friend was trying to get rid of her squier, so i
told her i would take it. she thought i was crazy because i already had
a perfectly great guitar.. but i was just like "my boy steve uses one,
they're not THAT bad". and they're really not.


I don't know that much about guitars. I just remember Clapton playing them back around the time of August or even The Journeyman era.

I think ol' Rothers knows his way around a guitar and wouldn't play one if it was a pile of crap bolted together.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 03 2006 at 21:47
true that, true that
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 04 2006 at 05:15
The early Squier guitars made in Japan were very good, in fact they were better than the American made Fenders, so Fender stopped producing Squires in Japan and the quality dropped. Rothery probably uses an early, good Squire on the occasions you mention.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 04 2006 at 07:04

I imagine it's that perticular guitar that has a good feel and  sound. A lot of big time guitarists have bargain brand guitars for that reason. Originally the Gibson Les Paul Jr.'s were meant to be beginners models but their feel and sound have made them sought after (and priced accordingly). I have read good reviews for some Squires being as good as higher priced Fenders.

Years ago guitarists on tour made a hobby of stopping at small music stores, second hand stores or pawnshops  looking for cheap bargains, vintage and odd ball guitars. I remember reading somewhere that David Lindley, Billy Gibbons and Ry Cooder were well known to do this. Then along came Kurt Cobain and ebay to make decent, low price guitars a thing of the past as demand (and prices) went  up. 
 
Overall, I think it's a case of "It's not what you have but what you do with it."
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 04 2006 at 09:47
If a good musician decides to use a special instrument it/he  has a reason.
Squier is not a bad label at all, so if S.R. feels comfortable playing one why shouldn't he ???
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 04 2006 at 11:15
I heard once that the guitarist from Def Leppard used a Squier in the studio Smile
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 04 2006 at 16:32
Originally posted by rupert rupert wrote:

If a good musician decides to use a special instrument it/he  has a reason.
Squier is not a bad label at all, so if S.R. feels comfortable playing one why shouldn't he ???


i never implied that he was wrong in using it, i was merely pointing out an interesting observation. i think it's a great thing that he uses a squier, because it proves that PERSONAL SUBJECTION will always rule over the status quo.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 05 2006 at 06:20
Don't knock Squiers! They're great guitars for the money. With a few upgrades (better pickups etc) they are not "just for beginners" but can be near equals to more expensive models. 
 
Late 70s Fenders are currently shooting up in price but, from the point of view of playability and quality of construction, a Japanese Squier would probably be the better option.
 
Mike Oldfield has recently retired his Fender Telecaster in favour of a Squier...
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2006 at 18:21
Originally posted by A B Negative A B Negative wrote:

Don't knock Squiers! They're great guitars for the money. With a few upgrades (better pickups etc) they are not "just for beginners" but can be near equals to more expensive models. 
 


Cry i never "knocked" on squiers.. and i totally agree with you there. the one my friend just gave me is great..

it is ignorant people who always believe everything that they're told that think squiers are a waste of time.. Angry
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 09 2006 at 11:37
Originally posted by MaReam GeneTree MaReam GeneTree wrote:

Originally posted by rupert rupert wrote:

If a good musician decides to use a special instrument it/he  has a reason.
Squier is not a bad label at all, so if S.R. feels comfortable playing one why shouldn't he ???


i never implied that he was wrong in using it, i was merely pointing out an interesting observation. i think it's a great thing that he uses a squier, because it proves that PERSONAL SUBJECTION will always rule over the status quo.
 
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