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Pnoom! 
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Posted: October 24 2006 at 14:32 |
I'm interested in what you guys think. I don't have an opinion, having never heard Kilroy, other than Mr. Roboto, which earns some credit for being a good juggling song... 
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Pnoom!
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Posted: October 24 2006 at 14:36 |
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I see no one else has an opinion either...
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Guillermo
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Posted: October 24 2006 at 14:43 |
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I never have listened to the "kilroy was here" album, but I listened to "Mr. Roboto" and I didn`t like it. I don`t like Styx`s music very much, apart from the song "Come Sail Away". Very commercial sound for my taste.
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johnobvious
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Posted: October 24 2006 at 14:43 |
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Styx gets way too bashed around here IMO. They put out some kick butt albums but ran out of steam, probably because Dennis DeYoung went all broadway on them.
When I heard Edge of the Century, I about threw up. 100 times worse than Kilroy.
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E-Dub
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Posted: October 24 2006 at 14:53 |
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No, you can't blame Kilroy. Tommy Shaw leaving didn't help, but Kilroy is actually a good album. I do, however, believe they went overboard on the Kilroy tour turning it into some sort of Broadway production with dialogue and stage props. I know Shaw found it to be ridiculous...as did a lot of their fans.
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bhikkhu
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Posted: October 24 2006 at 16:46 |
^^^ Sorry to disagree with you buddy, but "Kilroy" is awful. I thought "Paradise Theater" was bad, but when that came out ... 
So, the answer to the question is they were dead already. PT did that. KWH just confirmed it.
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lightbulb_son
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Posted: October 24 2006 at 17:24 |
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They were already dead IMO
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When the world is sick
Can't no one be well
But I dreamt we were all
beautiful and strong
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E-Dub
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Posted: October 24 2006 at 18:40 |
 bhikkhu wrote:
^^^ Sorry to disagree with you buddy, but "Kilroy" is awful. I thought "Paradise Theater" was bad, but when that came out ...
So, the answer to the question is they were dead already. PT did that. KWH just confirmed it. |
They were dead artistically, but not commercially. I think Kilroy did pretty well. Besides, it's not a great album, but good. I'd still rank it in the lower 3rd of their discography.
It's all good, Bhikkhu. Hard to get upset at one of the true good guys of the Archives. 
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hebrius
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Posted: October 24 2006 at 19:59 |
My God, people here are too much radical!!! 
I didn't voted in this poll, because I like 'Kilroy' album...even being too much poppier. 
Maybe STYX don't be too much prog, but they are a great rock band, with fine albuns (like 'Crystal Ball' and 'Paradise Theater'). And I don't care if they create radio singles... cause in every album we always have incredible songs (commercial or not) ! 
And the last studio album, 'Cyclorama', even with the absent of Dennis DeYoung, is a fantastic work, maybe the best STYX album. The disc have 4 vocalists, and all make great performances, each one in his own style... Believe me, this album ROCKS!!!
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Posted: October 24 2006 at 20:49 |
hebrius wrote:
My God, people here are too much radical!!![IMG]height=17 alt=LOL src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" width=17 align=absMiddle>
I didn't voted in this poll, because I like 'Kilroy' album...even being too much poppier.[IMG]height=17 alt=Embarrassed src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley9.gif" width=17 align=absMiddle>
Maybe STYX don't be too much prog, but they are a great rock band, with fine albuns (like 'Crystal Ball' and 'Paradise Theater'). And I don't care if they create radio singles... cause in every album we always have incredible songs (commercial or not) ![IMG]height=17 alt=Wink src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" width=17 align=absMiddle>
And the last studio album, 'Cyclorama', even with the absent of Dennis DeYoung, is a fantastic work, maybe the best STYX album. The disc have 4 vocalists, and all make great performances, each one in his own style... Believe me, this album ROCKS!!![IMG]height=17 alt=Clap src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif" width=18 align=absMiddle>
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Hey, don't get me wrong. I've got nothing against the band. I may not like them as much as I used to, but I still give "The Grand Illusion" a spin from time to time. They just lost me with "Paradise Theater." Sure, they may have have had huge financial success with those releases, but musically ...
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E-Dub
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Posted: October 24 2006 at 21:01 |
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<<Hey, don't get me wrong. I've got nothing against the band. I may not like them as much as I used to, but I still give "The Grand Illusion" a spin from time to time. >>
I need to pick that up on CD. The only Styx I have nowadays are the two greatest hits and the live Return To Paradise. I had Grand Illusion on vinyl back when I was a kid and loved "Man In The Wilderness". Friggin' amazing song.
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Edited by E-Dub - October 24 2006 at 21:01
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cuncuna
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Posted: October 24 2006 at 21:15 |
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Stix had something going on, but something didn't worked quite well, in my opinion. They should signed Eddie Jobson, that would be an interesting thing to listen.
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¡Beware of the Bee!
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Sasquamo
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Posted: October 24 2006 at 21:25 |
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Styx was never alive
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Arrrghus
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Posted: October 24 2006 at 21:26 |
cuncuna wrote:
Stix had something going on, but something didn't worked quite well, in my opinion. They should signed Eddie Jobson, that would be an interesting thing to listen. |
Yeah, that would have been cool! 
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cuncuna
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Posted: October 24 2006 at 21:30 |
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¡Beware of the Bee!
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el böthy
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Posted: October 24 2006 at 21:58 |
heheh Mr Roboto is so bad its actually a lot of fun!
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Arrrghus
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Posted: October 24 2006 at 21:59 |
Thank you, Mr. Roboto? 
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Posted: October 24 2006 at 22:07 |
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Sure, it's a crappy song (and probably a crappy album, I would never buy it), but if I was flipping through channels on the radio and heard it playing, I would probably leave it on, so I could get a good laugh; it's so ridiculous.
I have never liked Styx, anyways, though.
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Posted: October 25 2006 at 10:37 |
Well they certainly styarted committing suicide with Cornerstone and most evidently with that awful Babe. While ParadiseTheatre was correct at best (but not quite as good as Grand Illusion or Pieces Of Eight), Killroy and its hit Mr Lobbotto were among the worst stinkers ever produced.
It took them a long time to dare make another record.
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
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Rushman
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Posted: October 25 2006 at 11:04 |
E-Dub wrote:
No, you can't blame Kilroy. Tommy Shaw leaving didn't help, but Kilroy is actually a good album. I do, however, believe they went overboard on the Kilroy tour turning it into some sort of Broadway production with dialogue and stage props. I know Shaw found it to be ridiculous...as did a lot of their fans.
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It was definitely the "Kilroy Was Here" tour. I saw them on that tour at Texas Jam in the Houston Astrodome, and they were practically booed off the stage. 10-15 minutes of a "stage play" with no music was the worst way to follow-up Sammy Hagar, who had just blown the dome off the place.
And I also am a Styx fan, Grand illusion being a top-ten favorite album for me.
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