Forum Home Forum Home > Progressive Music Lounges > Prog Bands, Artists and Genres Appreciation
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Appreciation and Discussion of Post-Rock
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Topic ClosedAppreciation and Discussion of Post-Rock

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  123 4>
Author
Message
BePinkTheater View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: September 01 2005
Status: Offline
Points: 1381
Direct Link To This Post Topic: Appreciation and Discussion of Post-Rock
    Posted: September 16 2006 at 18:39
I'm fairly new to the genre, but I have fallen madly in love with it.
 
I'm very confident with my opinion that it is, in my eyes, it is the best genre of music to date. The emotional level and existential, calm state that it puts you in is simply incredible.
I have many songs downloaded and such, but the only CDs I own are : ().Von,Yanqui U.X.O, and LYSFLATH.
With what i have downloaded , i have a lot of Explosions in the sky and Mowgai too, but I havent been able to find any cds in stores.
 

Let's discuss this wonderful genre
I can strangle a canary in a tin can and it would be really original, but that wouldn't save it from sounding like utter sh*t.
-Stone Beard
Back to Top
Aaron View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member


Joined: April 08 2004
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 395
Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 16 2006 at 19:13
i don't mean to sound critical of the genre, but...

1. the bands sound sappy
2. kids cry at the concerts (that's just plain gay, and what i mean by that is "over the top", seriously, it's amazing that the music does this to them, but the music is so damn sappy
3. i also didn't like the interviews i read with GYBE, although i do think their music is pretty good, but they carried the same pretentiousness about them that the mighty bands of the past did, they are just way more subtle

peace , love and good happiness stuff

Aaron
Back to Top
Bryan View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator

Honorary Collaborator

Joined: April 01 2004
Status: Offline
Points: 3013
Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 16 2006 at 19:19
Originally posted by Aaron Aaron wrote:

i don't mean to sound critical of the genre, but...

2. kids cry at the concerts (that's just plain gay, and what i mean by that is "over the top", seriously, it's amazing that the music does this to them, but the music is so damn sappy



At least you have valid criticisms to provide towards the genre.
Back to Top
avestin View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: September 18 2005
Status: Offline
Points: 12625
Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 16 2006 at 19:23
Originally posted by Aaron Aaron wrote:

i don't mean to sound critical of the genre, but...

1. the bands sound sappy
2. kids cry at the concerts (that's just plain gay, and what i mean by that is "over the top", seriously, it's amazing that the music does this to them, but the music is so damn sappy
3. i also didn't like the interviews i read with GYBE, although i do think their music is pretty good, but they carried the same pretentiousness about them that the mighty bands of the past did, they are just way more subtle

peace , love and good happiness stuff

Aaron
 
 
Ok Aaron, thanks for the warning, I shall steer clear from this pathetic music.
I mean, kids crying at concerts, dear me, what a dreadful thought...
 
 
Back to Top
avestin View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: September 18 2005
Status: Offline
Points: 12625
Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 16 2006 at 19:31
Originally posted by BePinkTheater BePinkTheater wrote:

I'm fairly new to the genre, but I have fallen madly in love with it.
 
I'm very confident with my opinion that it is, in my eyes, it is the best genre of music to date. The emotional level and existential, calm state that it puts you in is simply incredible.
I have many songs downloaded and such, but the only CDs I own are : ().Von,Yanqui U.X.O, and LYSFLATH.
With what i have downloaded , i have a lot of Explosions in the sky and Mowgai too, but I havent been able to find any cds in stores.
 

Let's discuss this wonderful genre
 
So as to not allow one person ruin a potentially good thread, lets ignore the previous remarks and focus on the music.
 
The post-rock team here in PA is a team I really appreciate and you should be able to get interesting recommendations from them (Golden Spiral, Jimbo, Chamberry and Bryan). And there are also other fans here (such as anael) that will probably give you info as well.
 
Anyway, I will only mention some bands I like in this genre:
BELL ORCHESTRE (I strongly recommend them for some thrilling and rather happy sound)
 
 
 
 
Back to Top
Trickster F. View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: February 10 2006
Location: Belize
Status: Offline
Points: 5308
Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 16 2006 at 19:36

A kid cries everytime Mono's Com (?) reaches that noisy part.

sig
Back to Top
Bryan View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator

Honorary Collaborator

Joined: April 01 2004
Status: Offline
Points: 3013
Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 16 2006 at 20:09
The unfortunate part about post-rock is that there are legions of bands copying the sounds of the genre's big acts (GYBE, Explosions in the Sky and Mogwai), which has earned it sort of a bad reputation.  Here are some groups I would recommend who stear clear of this pitfall.

Tortoise - It could almost be said that they ARE one of the genre's big acts, but they're totally unique from the rest.
Envy - If you can stand some sceamed vocals, this is as beautiful and intense as music gets.  I hope to include them soon if the other post-rock team members are in agreement.
Jaga Jazzist - Jimbo gets credit for turning me on to these guys... not the genre's most traditional band, but very interesting and experimental music which I also hope to get included in the coming while.
Bell Orchestre - Upbeat post-rock?  It's as good a concept as it sounds.
Rachel's - A controversial entry amongst our team, it may be quite awhile before we actually see them included on the archives... but this is amazing, strongly neo-classical music which I've managed to absolutely fall in love with.
Back to Top
BePinkTheater View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: September 01 2005
Status: Offline
Points: 1381
Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 16 2006 at 20:18

Thank you very much (both Avestin and Bryan)

 
I'll definitely be checking some of those bands out.
I can strangle a canary in a tin can and it would be really original, but that wouldn't save it from sounding like utter sh*t.
-Stone Beard
Back to Top
Australian View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: June 13 2006
Location: Australia
Status: Offline
Points: 3278
Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 16 2006 at 20:22
Personally I find the latest three (okay all except Von) Sigur Ros albums to be very good. Try Takk.
Back to Top
avestin View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: September 18 2005
Status: Offline
Points: 12625
Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 16 2006 at 20:48
Originally posted by Bryan Bryan wrote:

Jaga Jazzist - Jimbo gets credit for turning me on to these guys... not the genre's most traditional band, but very interesting and experimental music which I also hope to get included in the coming while.
 
Jaga Jazzist is great, but I never realized they were post rock.
They are experimental, if you refer to that.
Anyway, a great band.
 
 
 
Back to Top
BePinkTheater View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: September 01 2005
Status: Offline
Points: 1381
Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 16 2006 at 21:03
i just tried to find them, and it looks like Jaga Jazzist isn't even included in the archives...why is that?
I can strangle a canary in a tin can and it would be really original, but that wouldn't save it from sounding like utter sh*t.
-Stone Beard
Back to Top
chamberry View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator

Honorary Collaborator

Joined: October 24 2005
Location: Puerto Rico
Status: Offline
Points: 9008
Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 16 2006 at 21:17
Good to see an appreciation thread about the genre. I too fell in love with the genre mainly because of the emotional level bands take you. I remember reading a review about Sigur Ros' Agaetis Byrjum saying that this is the music that you hear when you're on your way to heaven. That line made me really curious and I started to look info on the genre and the band and after that it was all downhill (in a good away).

Since I see Avestin and Bryan recommend some bands maybe I can recommend you a video perhaps?

Check this one out.

a Live preformance of Tortoise the band
~setlist...

-Strech (you are all right)
-Ten Day Interval
-Swung From the Gutters
-The Lithium Shifts
-Crest
-Seneca
Taken from Youtube.com

 

Back to Top
avestin View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: September 18 2005
Status: Offline
Points: 12625
Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 16 2006 at 21:31
Originally posted by BePinkTheater BePinkTheater wrote:

i just tried to find them, and it looks like Jaga Jazzist isn't even included in the archives...why is that?
 
They are still on the list of bands under discussion/voting here:
 
 
Here are a few links:
 
 
I have thought of them more as a jazz/funk sounding band.
 
 
 
Back to Top
Meddler View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member


Joined: September 29 2005
Location: Massillon
Status: Offline
Points: 881
Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 16 2006 at 21:56
Post rock is my favorite genre, it all happened when I saw someone post the album to F#A#, whoever did it I'm eternally greatful. Tongue

Thank's for all the good suggestions! I'm definately looking a lot of them up.
[IMG]http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i165/amorfous/astro-1.jpg">

Back to Top
Reverie View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member


Joined: May 14 2005
Location: Australia
Status: Offline
Points: 626
Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 16 2006 at 22:19
I'm not that familiar with the genre really, but i do have GY!BE's Lift Yr Skinny Fists... and i think it's marvellous. Still need to explore Sigur Ros further, and i guess the genre as a whole. Not one of my priorities though, i have to say.

And yeah i wouldn't have said Jaga Jazzist are post-rock. I can understand why people would be inclined to say they have a post-rockiness to them, but i think they're more closely related to jazz.
Back to Top
BePinkTheater View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: September 01 2005
Status: Offline
Points: 1381
Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 16 2006 at 22:36
Oh man. I just watched that Tortoise video.

Holy sh*t, what a kick ass group.
 
Idono about calling them post rock though... i tihnk they'd fit better under the ambiet prog rock catagory...but either way its awesome.
I can strangle a canary in a tin can and it would be really original, but that wouldn't save it from sounding like utter sh*t.
-Stone Beard
Back to Top
chamberry View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator

Honorary Collaborator

Joined: October 24 2005
Location: Puerto Rico
Status: Offline
Points: 9008
Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 16 2006 at 23:03
I'm glad you enjoyed it. Watching that video made interested in getting an album by them and got TNT wich I think is a masterpiece. I agree that they aren't post-rock if you compare them with other bands from the genre, but they have that certain sound that makes them part of the genre. You should check the album I mentioned earlier if you liked the video.

Back to Top
BePinkTheater View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: September 01 2005
Status: Offline
Points: 1381
Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 16 2006 at 23:10
Yea, i can definitely see some similarities in sound that would put them there.
 
And I think I'll try to pick that one up. I noticed that most of the songs on teh setlist were from that one,a dn its their highest rated...
So if I can find it, I'll buy it.
I can strangle a canary in a tin can and it would be really original, but that wouldn't save it from sounding like utter sh*t.
-Stone Beard
Back to Top
TheProgtologist View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin

Joined: May 23 2005
Location: Baltimore,Md US
Status: Offline
Points: 27802
Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 16 2006 at 23:26
Originally posted by Aaron Aaron wrote:

i don't mean to sound critical of the genre, but...1. the bands sound sappy2. kids cry at the concerts (that's just plain gay, and what i mean by that is "over the top", seriously, it's amazing that the music does this to them, but the music is so damn sappy3. i also didn't like the interviews i read with GYBE, although i do think their music is pretty good, but they carried the same pretentiousness about them that the mighty bands of the past did, they are just way more subtlepeace , love and good happiness stuffAaron


Your constant use of the term "gay" is really starting to bother me.

Am I wrong or haven't you been warned repeatedly about that?
    


Back to Top
superprog View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member


Joined: July 07 2006
Status: Offline
Points: 1354
Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2006 at 00:01
hehehe from the discussions above really seems that the term postrock really has evolved and changed over the years to allude mainly to guitar-based, epic sweeping instrumental rock music.  To the point where one of the most important and seminal postrock bands Tortoise gets called ambient-prog instead (tho that is technically not a wrong way to describe them if you had never heard the term postrock before)........
 
Postrock has always been a mixed bag of sounds, the point where rock music moved beyond 80s indie rock, hair metal, stadium rock and wathave u to wholeheartedly embrace musical aesthetics found in electronic dance music, dub reggae, 70s progressive/Krautrock, 60s film soundtracks, avant garde composition etc.....
 
Tortoise's Millions Now Living Will Never Die stands as this 'genre''s most significant document, where rock music is able to truly achieve 'texture', 'colour' and 'sound', yet retain its emotional and visceral force. 
 
In fact, my brother keeps asking me why stuff like Mogwai and Sigur Ros are considred postrock when all he can hear is a newer strain of shoegazer indie rock like Slowdive, Chapterhouse and Ride!!!
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  123 4>

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down



This page was generated in 0.352 seconds.
Donate monthly and keep PA fast-loading and ad-free forever.