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Tormato 
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 Topic: Yes pupils, followers or clones.
Posted: August 28 2006 at 16:24 |
I've been thinking in starting this thread for quite some time, because I think that a lot of people will smash me for doing it. Please don't be so hard on me. This is the first thread that I post, and I'm a sensitive, shy fellow  .
I've collected any thing Yes has released, including most of their "Best of" compilations and "Anniversaries", and all their live albums. I have a lot of Wakeman, Howe and Anderson's solo albums, although they don't sound like Yes, but I like them. I also have a little of Brufford, solo and with King Crimsom and other bands. The point is that I really LOVE, ADORE or WORSHIP the sound of Yes, specially from The Yes Album through Drama, and now I've come to feel that I've got nothing else to collect in this field, so....(don't shoot!) I started to look for bands that have a similar sound, vibration or feel than Yes. And I don't care if you call them clones, as long as they give me more of that sound to which I'm so hooked. So far I have discovered Starcastle, Alaska, Druid, Multistory and Ring of Myth. Some, like Alaska are very cool and talented. Others not so much. Anyway, can you people recommend more bands that I can collect to put on my "Yes pupils" collection?.
Finally, I don't see anything wrong in admiring a band so much that you try to play like them. I think it's part of a process while developing your own style. I think that Yes deserves a lot of reverence. They created a school of sound, and those bands are students, not copies.
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I like Tormato, so shoot me! Every person in the world can't think the same.
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Harry Hood
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Posted: August 28 2006 at 16:29 |
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Umphrey's McGee seems to borrow a lot from Yes, even though the lead singer sounds nothing like Jon Anderson, the guitarist is heavily influenced by Steve Howe.Look for the album The Anchor Drops.
Edited by Harry Hood - August 28 2006 at 16:35
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Rocktopus
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Posted: August 28 2006 at 16:41 |
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Yezda Urfa.
Voivod and Enslaved have both said themselves that they're influenced by Yes, but you might not be able to hear it.
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Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes
Find a fly and eat his eye
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Don't believe in me
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Phil
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Posted: August 28 2006 at 16:48 |
Yes are my favourite band BUT...I find the "clones" disappointing, and nowadays though I still love Yes, I also like to strike out for "new" stuff - like The Mars Volta and Pure Reason Revolution. Sorry that doesn't answer your point really does it? Hope you find more of what you want - - but I hope you don't close yourself off to other things that are going on now....
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Ed_The_Dead
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Posted: August 28 2006 at 17:26 |
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micky
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Posted: August 28 2006 at 17:28 |
 Phil wrote:
Yes are my favourite band BUT...I find the "clones"
disappointing, and nowadays though I still love Yes, I also like to
strike out for "new" stuff - like The Mars Volta and Pure Reason
Revolution. Sorry that doesn't answer your point really does it? Hope
you find more of what you want - - but I hope you don't close yourself
off to other things that are going on now.... |
^ what he said....
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Fragile
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Posted: August 28 2006 at 19:21 |
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There are no bands that sound like Yes.
Edited by Fragile - August 28 2006 at 19:22
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NotAProghead
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Posted: August 28 2006 at 20:06 |
Probably CHERRY FIVE album is worth checking out.
Hope reviews on this site will help you to make a decision.
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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BePinkTheater
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Posted: August 28 2006 at 20:35 |
I agree with Ed.
But to elaborate a little.
The Flower Kings are a great modern band. Everything they write is brilliant. They are HEAVILY influenced by Yes, but not really a copy cat.
This band will give you a similar sound to yes, and many ideas used by yes, but with a more modern flare to it.
Very good stuff.
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I can strangle a canary in a tin can and it would be really original, but that wouldn't save it from sounding like utter sh*t.
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Harry Hood
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Posted: August 28 2006 at 20:37 |
Phish is another band with Yes influence.
They never actually covered anything by Yes, but some people have said that "You Enjoy Myself" sounds a lot like "The Fish", and they teased "Long Distance Runaround" during a vocal jam.
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AfanSpur
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Posted: August 29 2006 at 04:42 |
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Just give up now. I've searched high and low and no one compares. My simultaneous great and bad fortune was that Yes was the first prog band i heard. And as they are way out there as no 1 it was slightly down hill after that. These days i have given up comparing to Yes, it is futile, and it has allowed me to enjoy many bands on their own merits.
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There stands Olias to outward to build a ship
Holding within all we hope to retain
The frame will be so built to challenge the universe
Clasped with the skins of the fish of the plain
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MattiR
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Posted: August 29 2006 at 07:55 |
Rocktopus wrote:
Voivod and Enslaved have both said themselves that they're influenced by Yes, but you might not be able to hear it.
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You're right, though it's worth remembering there are other influences
in music of Voivod and Enslaved. It's interesting that for instance
Enslaved is (was?) black metal band. And they like/love Yes 
Clones of Yes? I recommend all of you an excellent French band ATOLL, especially:
“Musiciens –
Magiciens” [1974] ---> lots, lots of Yes. Just discover it!
“L'Araignée-Mal”
[1975]
“Tertio”
[1977]
I think a superb example is also German GROBSCHNITT (not all albums!), for instance "Rockpommel's Land" [1977].
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XTChuck
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Posted: August 29 2006 at 10:59 |
I'd suggest Badger's first album. Their second and final LP doesn't sound like the same band. I'd also suggest the first two albums by Flash.
Both of these bands have ties to Yes.
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Heptade
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Posted: August 29 2006 at 14:29 |
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Starcastle is the ultimate Yes-clone...and they did it in the 70s! Pretty shameless, but good albums.
Druid was pretty damn close too.
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The world keeps spinning, people keep sinning
And all the rest is just bullsh*t
-Steve Kilbey
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richardh
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Posted: August 29 2006 at 15:13 |
Magenta's 'Seven' album has a bit of a Yes feel to it to my ears.
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Tormato
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Posted: August 29 2006 at 15:42 |
Phil wrote:
Yes are my favourite band BUT...I find the "clones" disappointing, and nowadays though I still love Yes, I also like to strike out for "new" stuff - like The Mars Volta and Pure Reason Revolution. Sorry that doesn't answer your point really does it? Hope you find more of what you want - - but I hope you don't close yourself off to other things that are going on now.... |
Of course I'm also checking new or not so new stuff. Since I started to come to this place I'm spending more money than I did in a looong time, in buying music. I've discovered Radiohead's "Kid A" and the following album(didn't know the "creeps" were prog!), and Nightwish (once). curiously, I was fascinated by Nightwish's "Once" for a couple of weeks, I heard it a lot, and then suddenly, for no reason, I lost interest. Porcupine Tree is another that I owe to Prog Archives (In Absentia - Deadwing). And yes, I'm planning to search for The Mars Volta these days. And I bought Camel's "Snowgoose" and Caravan's "In the Land of Gray and Pink" due to the reviews. I'm very pleased of
being able to wide my horizon, since everything I knew before PA was Pink Floyd, Yes, ELP, Genesis, Jethro Tull, Rush and Kansas. It's just that I can't get enough of the classic Yes sound and feeling, I want more and I am sad when I think that what I've got is all that there is....
By the way, thank you all for your support on this. I know this thread made some people angry, and with a reason. It's true that supporting the clones does very little for the creative development of prog, but I think that you need some degree of creativity to play like Yes.
THANK YOU!!! Any more recommendations? All welcome .
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I like Tormato, so shoot me! Every person in the world can't think the same.
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Tony Fisher
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Posted: August 29 2006 at 18:22 |
Heptade wrote:
Druid was pretty damn close too. |
I think you're wrong, my friend. Druid are superficially like Yes in the bass tone, the high pitched vocals and slightly dreamy lyrics and that's it. The instrumental styles are NOTHING like Yes and the compositions very different. I saw them several times in 76/77, shared beers with them after gigs and got to know two of them quite well. They liked Yes, but never consciously set out to imitate them. They were admirers of many other bands as much or more than Yes. Listen to Toward the Sun and tell me one Yes track that sounds remotely like ANY of the tracks. I can't find even one. I like Yes very much but I also like Druid for their musicianship and musicality, not because they were a Yes clone. They were not and I feel to label them as such is a mistake.
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Arrrghus
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Posted: August 29 2006 at 18:23 |
I think Mr. Bungle is a perfect clone of Yes... not. 
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progadicto
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Posted: August 29 2006 at 18:31 |
MattiR wrote:
Rocktopus wrote:
Voivod and Enslaved have both said themselves that they're influenced by Yes, but you might not be able to hear it.
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You're right, though it's worth remembering there are other influences
in music of Voivod and Enslaved. It's interesting that for instance
Enslaved is (was?) black metal band. And they like/love Yes
Clones of Yes? I recommend all of you an excellent French band ATOLL, especially:
“Musiciens –
Magiciens” [1974] ---> lots, lots of Yes. Just discover it!
“L'Araignée-Mal”
[1975]
“Tertio”
[1977]
I think a superb example is also German GROBSCHNITT (not all albums!), for instance "Rockpommel's Land" [1977].
I disagree... Rockpommel's Land doesn't sound like any Yes album (maybe just some tunes)... Maybe it's the inffluence or the stuff of the 70's (almost every band sounds like other one in that or these album/song) but I don't find any common points between Grobschnitt Rockpommel's and Yes... BTW I think that Ring of Myth sounds more like a Yes homage than many other bands mentiones here...
Peace & love.-.-.-.-.-.-
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MattiR
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Posted: August 30 2006 at 04:14 |
progadicto wrote:
I disagree... Rockpommel's Land doesn't sound like any Yes album (maybe just some tunes)... Maybe it's the inffluence or the stuff of the 70's (almost every band sounds like other one in that or these album/song) but I don't find any common points between Grobschnitt Rockpommel's and Yes... |
OK, Grobschnitt isn't a clone of Yes in 100%, it obvious. There are certain differences. However there are also similarities, for example - guitar on "Rockpommel's Land" sounds like guitar of Howe; wonderful atmosphere reminds me atmosphere of Yes. Cover of "Rockpommel's Land" reminds me works of Roger Dean. OK, it's not a music matter. By the way - don't you hear one big similarity (one moment) to "Gates Of Delirium" on "Rockpommel's Land"?
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