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Alucard
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Topic: Randy Newman Posted: August 23 2006 at 11:53 |
Randy Newman : Little Criminals (1977) my favourite RN record, and my favourite RN song : 'Baltimore',gives me the shivers everytime I hear it, the slow piano intro...
"Beat-up little seagull On a marble stair Tryin' to find the ocean Lookin' everywhere
Hard times in the city In a hard town by the sea Ain't nowhere to run to There ain't nothin' here for free
Hooker on the corner Waitin' for a train Drunk lyin' on the sidewalk Sleepin' in the rain..."
followed closely by 'In Germany Before The War' and 'Jolly Coppers', great songwriter!
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Tadpoles keep screaming in my ear
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Explain the meaning of this song and share it"
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Chicapah
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Posted: August 23 2006 at 12:21 |
Amen, amen, amen.
I'm still amazed at the number of otherwise intelligent people who don't understand the concept of "satire."
All his albums are great and "The Natural" soundtrack is my favorite of all time.
Newman just may be the most underrated artist of our generation.
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Alucard
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Posted: August 23 2006 at 12:33 |
Chicapah looks like we have a second hit after Buffalo S....
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Tadpoles keep screaming in my ear
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Chicapah
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Posted: August 23 2006 at 14:53 |
You have excellent taste in music!
"....Sun's going down, starting to rain,
Papa, we'll go sailing."
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DallasBryan
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Posted: August 23 2006 at 16:52 |
12 Songs is a CLASSIC album with Ry Cooder on guitar. Randy had several other good ones in his early career.
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Chicapah
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Posted: August 24 2006 at 08:54 |
I've got "Little Criminals" in my car cd player for the ride home
today. I love Joe Walsh's slide work on "Can't fool the fat man."
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Posted: August 24 2006 at 10:13 |
I prefer In Germany before the war, one of my favourite songs.
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Posted: August 24 2006 at 10:46 |
Alucard wrote:
Randy Newman : Little Criminals (1977) my favourite RN record, and my favourite RN song : 'Baltimore',gives me the shivers everytime I hear it, the slow piano intro...
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 Mine too! And yes, the piano intro is the business. Excellent album. The pathos in some of the songs on that album is so heavy. I also have owned "Sail Away" and "Good Old Boys" since the 1970s, which are every bit as good. 'Mamma Told Me Not To Come' on "12 Songs" is also a favourite of mine and of course very well known, having been covered by THREE DOG NIGHT amongst others (I used to have that LP too, which I also liked). To this day I regret haivng missed a concert of his in 1978 or thereabouts. I had a ticket for the concert at the Manchester (UK) Apollo if I recall correctly, but had to give it to a friend at the last minute because I had to go somewhere at short notice. Fortunately a local radio station recorded the concert and aired it some time later, and I captured it on cassette, which I think I must still have somewhere. So few people went to that concert that Newman said during the concert: "This town has two first division football teams..."! I.e. "Where is everybody?!" What a shame there was a poor turnout for such a good artist.
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Posted: August 24 2006 at 13:28 |
Not been into Randy Newman. So a question for the fans, how does he compare say with artists (I think) are relatively close musically, e.g. Tom Waits, Warren Zevon and somebody else I about to catch up on, the late Harry Chapin?
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Chicapah
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Posted: August 24 2006 at 15:03 |
Musically Zevon would be closer than Waits or Chapin. Lyrically I
think of Zevon being a lot more macabre whereas Newman is cleverly
satirical and mildly sarcastic. Like Zevon, he has attracted the
attention of many of the giants in music and lots of them have guested
on his recordings. I still think Newman is more sophisticated
than any of them because he is so versatile and writes intricate
orchestral parts behind his music that are amazing to my ears. I
realize it comes down to a matter of taste but he's way, way up there
on my list of artists that I'd buy a new album from without hearing a
note of it first.
(I also love to listen to Wait's "Heartattack and Vine" and "Small Change" albums.)
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Posted: August 24 2006 at 19:38 |
^Nicely put, Chicapah. Mind you, Zevon could certainly turn on the sarcasm and satire when he wanted to. Basically, Newman's music is less heavy than Zevon's, more mellow and pop-ish.
Anyone remember the Alan Price cover of Newman's 'Simon Smith And His Amazing Dancing Bear' (also covered by the Muppets!)? Newman is a prodigious songwriter.
Newman does a lot of film score work these days. He did the theme tune for Pixar's Toy Story, amongst others and is one of the US's best-known songwriters.
But some of his early stuff can be acerbic (and ironic, lest anyone not understand the message in the following song):
Political Science (from the 1972 album "Sail Away")
No one likes us I don't know why. We may not be perfect But heaven knows we try. But all around even our old friends put us down. Let's drop the big one and see what happens.
We give them money But are they grateful? No they're spiteful And they're hateful. They don't respect us so let's surprise them; We'll drop the big one and pulverize them.
Now Asia's crowded And Europe's too old. Africa's far too hot, And Canada's too cold. And South America stole our name. Let's drop the big one; there'll be no one left to blame us.
Bridge: We'll save Australia; Don't wanna hurt no kangaroo. We'll build an all-American amusement park there; They've got surfing, too.
Well, boom goes London, And boom Paris. More room for you And more room for me. And every city the whole world round Will just be another American town. Oh, how peaceful it'll be; We'll set everybody free; You'll have Japanese kimonos, baby, There'll be Italian shoes for me. They all hate us anyhow, So let's drop the big one now. Let's drop the big one now.
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Posted: August 24 2006 at 20:07 |
Newman's background is definitely more Tin Pan Alley than your typical singer-songwriter....in reading interviews and articles, Mr. Newman purports to dislike rock 'n' roll music immensely - says he doesn't touch the stuff and it shows, since 1981 he's only released two "rock" records while focusing on hammy movie soundtracks and a musical based on Goethe's Faust. His greatest influences were two famous uncles who supplied Hollywood with a load of its movie soundtracks from the 40s through the 60s. Randy learned the craft from this uncle and came of age at a time when rock was slipping into the mainstream. Early on, he couldn't sell his own recordings, but he sure sold a load of his songs....he supplied the music for a top-rated US TV show and Judy Collins, Dusty Springfield, Peggy Lee and Three Dog Night all had hits covering songs from Randy's first album. Man, Harry Nillson even won a Record of the Year award for a cover album of Newman songs from his first two albums! His nasaly voice and subdued piano stylings accompanying his often manically depressing though always sharp witted short stories/songs were certainly a hard sell in the rock 'n' roll arena.....luckily, Rolling Stone magazine heavily hyped both 12 Songs and Sail Away and the kids caught on. The rest is history....pick up ANY Randy Newman record and you're bound to catch on, too.
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I like to feel the suspense when you're certain you know I am there.....
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Posted: August 24 2006 at 20:10 |
I only know "Short People"
But I think I'm gonna get some more music of him 
He's the one who did the Toy Story sound track too, right?
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Chicapah
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Posted: August 25 2006 at 09:30 |
First of all I have to correct myself. Joe Walsh's excellent
slide guitar work on Little Criminals is on the song of the same name,
not "Can't fool the fat man." I should be flogged for such a
mistake!
Check out Randy's website (google it) and you can read his funny
comments about his European tour. He's very Mark Twain-ish in his
observations. I know he may say he doesn't like rock and roll but
he's written some excellent specimens of that genre throughout his
career so I'd take that statement from him with a eye out for a sly
wink.
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