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YYZed
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Topic: How prog are Boston? Posted: June 23 2006 at 18:26 |
A friend of mine recently mentioned Boston along with the names Yes and Pink Floyd. I was a little bit confused, so I went back and listened to their debut and came to believe there is some prog influence there, but it was a little absured to mention them with Yes and Floyd...
Anyways, what do you all think?
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lightbulb_son
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Posted: June 23 2006 at 18:27 |
slight prog influence, but do not put them in a group with Yes and Pink Floyd.
The experimentations with guitar effects is slightly prog, but other than that i don't see much. plain old rock n roll if you ask me.
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Posted: June 23 2006 at 18:40 |
Oh yeah, they're right up there with all of the prog greats. Asia, Rabin-Yes, Styx...
(Option #3)
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Posted: June 23 2006 at 18:44 |
Longtime/Foreplay is probably their proggiest song.
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Posted: June 23 2006 at 19:00 |
Well....they aren't prog enough for this poll to be in Prog Polls.
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Posted: June 23 2006 at 20:03 |
Of course non-prog. Styx is the poppiest group that can be "accused" of any prog trace, but even the prog related category is too much for them. Boston is the proto-AOR band. A good first album, average second and the rest is the rest. But I still like their first album. It's more than a feeling...
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Posted: June 23 2006 at 20:49 |
AOR bollox. Not Prog, and the continued association in some people's
minds is just sad (and points the way to why SB and others are seen as
a actual Prog bands).
Edited by Teaflax - June 23 2006 at 21:01
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Posted: June 23 2006 at 20:53 |
There's nothing more classic AOR than Boston. No offense, but do
we really need to be having this conversation? I mean, this band
is slam dunk non-prog.
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Posted: June 24 2006 at 02:54 |
The fact that this poll has been moved is a prove of how prog is Boston.
IMO no relation at all.
Iván
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Posted: June 24 2006 at 03:19 |
they're still great though
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Posted: June 24 2006 at 06:20 |
I quite like Boston, they had some good pop/rock hits, and there is a slight hint of prog influence, but basically they're AOR, not in itself a bad thing!
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Posted: June 24 2006 at 06:29 |
C'mon, they do have some (admittedly slight) prog influences. Still there is no questioning Boston being in a totally different league than Yes or PF.
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Posted: June 24 2006 at 07:34 |
I think they're just a standard rock & roll band as many others here have said. They're great though!
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Posted: June 24 2006 at 09:23 |
hhmmm
seeing how this poll is in the NON-Prog music area hahah. Great
music... just not prog. As far as influences... lots of groups were
influenced by prog but weren't prog... best example...Led Zeppelin.
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Posted: June 24 2006 at 10:26 |
They're a bit proggy, but not much. But that's okay because Boston is cool.
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Posted: June 24 2006 at 13:47 |
Just a precision, AOR should not be a term that scares us too much, technically Progressive Rock is an AOR genre.
AOR means ALBUM ORIENTED ROCK or ALBUM ORIENTED RADIO, this definition was created when the FM radios started to play music without commercials in the late 60's and early 70's.
This stations could play full albums from bands that based their music in the rellease of complete LPs as an integral work instead of hit singles in 45 RPM format as it was used in AM stations, thanks to this new format of Radio Broadcasting, Prog bands were able to have airplay in FM stations, because as anybody should know, Prog bands rarely released hit singles being that their vehicle of expression are full albums, and even more when Conceptual albums are so common.
After Prog had their first crisis at the end of the 70's, some bands specially froim USA kept releasing non Prog music but still based in albums that had a predominant pérsonality as a whole. This bands were more conservative but IMO are far more impotant for music than those one hit wonders that released a famous song and then vanished (For example Kyrie Eleison by Mister Mr).
Later the term was changed by some people to ADULT oriented Rock, but this term is inaccurate and doesn't adjust to reality as a matter of facts it's been abused and some good Neo Prog or USA Prog bands have been accused of being AOR in the same vein as Boston, Journey or thoise weak Glam Metal bands of the 80's.
This doesn't mean I believe Boston is Prog or even related,. but there's good and bad AOR as there are good and bad bands in almost every genre.
Just a precision.
Iván
Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - June 24 2006 at 14:01
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Posted: June 24 2006 at 16:35 |
They aren't progressive, but I really like their debut (I have no interest in their latter albums, though).
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Posted: June 24 2006 at 21:13 |
What scares me is how many people here appreciate Boston, while at the
same time deriding what's in the charts. Hipocrisy, is what they used
to call it, I believe.
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Posted: June 24 2006 at 21:19 |
Teaflax wrote:
What scares me is how many people here appreciate Boston, while at the same time deriding what's in the charts. Hipocrisy, is what they used to call it, I believe. |
Whats in the charts? Britney Spears, Madonna, Hip Hop, Rap, Eminem etc
I don´t think you can compare Boston to that lot.
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Posted: June 24 2006 at 23:02 |
RycheMan wrote:
Whats in the charts? Britney Spears, Madonna, Hip Hop, Rap, Eminem etc
I don´t think you can compare Boston to that lot. |
Hey Ryche, don't mention Rap or Eminem because you will be accused of being narrow minded and probably will receive a lecture about the trascendental role of Eminem in development of modern culture, something that may be true or not, even when I don't know or care about.
But don't you dare to say you don't hate Boston, because you will be called an ignorant redneck who likes to eat pork burgers.
In my case I never cared for Boston either, all my friends bought their debut album and I never had a cassette copy of them because sounded bland for my taste, but still believe that there are some good melodies and songs in AOR bands and even like some STYX tracks.
That's how things work for some people, you are not allowed to make generalizations about the music they like, but they have the God given right to make generalizations about the music you don't hate.
Iván
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