Peter Hammill v Morrisey

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If these two were to go head to head in a competition to see who could come up with the most maudlin, self-pitying song, who do you think would win? 
I reckon PH would have me reaching for the Prozac marginlly quicker than Mozza, but it's a close call.
What do you lot reckon?

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fogwalker Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: May 16 2006 Status: Offline Points: 100	Topic: Peter Hammill v Morrisey Posted: May 25 2006 at 03:21
	If these two were to go head to head in a competition to see who could come up with the most maudlin, self-pitying song, who do you think would win? I reckon PH would have me reaching for the Prozac marginlly quicker than Mozza, but it's a close call. What do you lot reckon?

Teaflax Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: June 26 2005 Status: Offline Points: 1225	Posted: May 25 2006 at 04:00
	I think you may have had a humor bypass.


Phil Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: June 17 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1881	Posted: May 25 2006 at 04:05
	Bizzare....not sure I share your view of Peter Hammill. Perhaps a poll in another forum giving the choice between Morrisey and Leonard Cohen might be more the thing?

Rocktopus Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: March 02 2006 Location: Norway Status: Offline Points: 4202	Posted: May 25 2006 at 04:06
	Is this an attemt to insult or not, Fogwalker? Since you have named yourself after a classic Hammill song, so I'll try to answer your question: PH wins for me too. The beautiful album Over is more depressing to me than anything Morrisey ever made. Big fan of both (The Smiths much more than Morrisey's mediocre solo albums), and I find most of their music uplifting.
	Over land and under ashes In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me

Wilcey Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: August 11 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 2696	Posted: May 25 2006 at 04:06
	The boy Morrissey is not prozac material, his lyrics are brimming with satire, and humour........maybe a little maudlin in places, but shovel loads of reality! I mean after decades. or hundreds of years of guys singing about the earth shattering beauty of a lady to woo her, how much more real can you get with Morrissey's "You're the one for me Fatty!" Classic stuff! PH............. well, when I feel bad, I mean REALLY bad I stick on some PH.............and I think to myself "pull yourself out of it girl, this bloke has REAL troubles" and I am bouncing around like a bouncy thing in no time! reverse psychology! P-C

fogwalker Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: May 16 2006 Status: Offline Points: 100	Posted: May 25 2006 at 05:42
	Nah. I like both Hammill and Morissey - a lot as it happens - that's how I can allow myself the luxury of a little irreverence at their expense! Over is indeed a beautiful album - but I do find the deeply personal lyrics hard to listen to at times. Morrsey is somewhat more knowing and ironic. Still, I do find it trying when he's asking "Why doesn't anyone love me?" for the seven hundredth time.

chopper Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 13 2005 Location: Essex, UK Status: Offline Points: 20035	Posted: May 25 2006 at 07:24
	I'd have to go for the man who wrote a great song about being knocked down and killed by a ten-ton truck.

Blacksword Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Prog Reviewer Joined: June 22 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 16130	Posted: May 25 2006 at 07:38
	I dont find Hammill maudlin at all. In fact I never found Morrissey or The Smiths in the least bit depressing either. Both men are masters of the written word, and that's coming from someone who often ignores lyrics completely. Nick Drake said the brightest light comes from the darkest places (I paraphrase), in his song 'Fruit Tree'. I think he was right.
	Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!

Vompatti Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: October 22 2005 Location: elsewhere Status: Offline Points: 67460	Posted: May 25 2006 at 08:35
	What's so great about Morrissey's lyrics is that they're often so sad and funny at the same time.