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video vertigo 
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Posted: February 24 2006 at 05:29 |
A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers v. Supper's Ready.
Discuss!
Supper's Ready is a lot easier to understand for me, but then it really isn't that easy I guess. There are great things about both epics, I'd like to know what you all get out of both and how they compare.
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BaldFriede
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Posted: February 24 2006 at 05:48 |
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I prefer "A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers", because of its dissonant
parts, but both are great and very important epics. And "A Plague of
Lighthouse Keepers" probably had some influence on "Supper's Ready".
There is an epic track on "Les Contes du Singe Fou" by Clearlight, the
beginning of which sounds a lot like the beginning of "Supper's Ready".
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Posted: February 24 2006 at 06:08 |
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I don't really like Supper's Ready for some reason. I just don't get what others see in it - to me it's not more than 4 stars.
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Posted: February 24 2006 at 06:19 |
Does anyone find the way that Genesis seem to reapeat a really simple accoustic riff over and over again for longer instrumental sections in alot of their songs a bit annoying? It just so boooooooooooooooooooooooooooring...
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Posted: February 24 2006 at 06:19 |
Both tracks are absolute stunners
Supper's ready is anything but new to me (I have listened to it for the last thirty years) , while Lighthouse Keeper only for the last ten years (VDGG was particularly difficult for me due to Hammill's voice)
Seeing this Lighthouse track sung in the studio is one of my best thrills of this last decade (bonus as the Godbluff live DVD).
I prophecy disaster,
the I count the cost.....
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Posted: February 24 2006 at 06:20 |
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I love Suppers Ready, I find it dynamic and well composed. I've only just got Pawn Hearts so I cant make a proper judgment on it yet untill I get to know it better but A Plague... sounds damn good so far.
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Posted: February 24 2006 at 06:23 |
By the way i prefer A plague...Hamills voice on that one is just so dramatic!
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Posted: February 24 2006 at 06:26 |
 Lindsay Lohan wrote:
Does anyone find the way that Genesis seem to reapeat a really simple accoustic riff over and over again for longer instrumental sections in alot of their songs a bit annoying? It just so boooooooooooooooooooooooooooring...
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Boring is certainly one of the attributes that I'd apply to Supper's Ready. ESPECIALLY if compared to Plague...
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Lindsay Lohan
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Posted: February 24 2006 at 06:29 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Lindsay Lohan wrote:
Does anyone find the way that Genesis seem to reapeat a really simple accoustic riff over and over again for longer instrumental sections in alot of their songs a bit annoying? It just so boooooooooooooooooooooooooooring...
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Boring is certainly one of the attributes that I'd apply to Supper's Ready. ESPECIALLY if compared to Plague...
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Yeah i think many of the indivdual riffs is great about it...but some of the sections in that song is just...meh...it takes too long before anything happens sort of speak.
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Posted: February 24 2006 at 06:35 |
A few weeks ago I thought that A plague of... was the main reason why Pawn Hearts isn't a classic in my book. It is easier to get into Supper's Ready then A Plague of....
But after a few more turns I'm beginning to like A Plague of...
Supper's Ready is just ahead.
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Posted: February 24 2006 at 07:15 |
Both epics are gorgeous! They absolutely belong to the finest achievements in prog.
I find Plague more dramatic and more haunting than Supper. It's realy eerie!
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Posted: February 24 2006 at 20:39 |
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my opinion is that Hammill beats Gabriel in the vocal department (except for the Willow Farm part), aPoLK is harder to get into than Supper's Ready but both are brilliant. Its so hard for me to decide what I like better, but I think Supper's Ready has more variety in the emotions it brings out of me while listening. So its Supper's Ready for me.
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Posted: February 24 2006 at 21:06 |
never understood the hubbub about Supper's Ready... a great epic to be
sure. Find others like Tarkus, Zarathustra, and Gates of Delirium
superior in all facets ......other than lyrically which really
don't mean a great deal to me anyway. I'm a prog fan,
especially prog that I have NO CLUE what is being sung (Italian,
Spanish, Magma).... give me music.. if I cared much about lyrics I'd be
listening to country music. 
A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers... my two cents is I consider the
first half of that some of the best prog I've ever heard.... however
the 2nd half leaves me a bit cold, and drags the track down as a whole
a couple of notches.
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video vertigo
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Posted: February 25 2006 at 20:10 |
micky wrote:
never understood the hubbub about Supper's Ready... a great epic to be sure. Find others like Tarkus, Zarathustra, and Gates of Delirium superior in all facets ......other than lyrically which really don't mean a great deal to me anyway. I'm a prog fan, especially prog that I have NO CLUE what is being sung (Italian, Spanish, Magma).... give me music.. if I cared much about lyrics I'd be listening to country music.
A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers... my two cents is I consider the first half of that some of the best prog I've ever heard.... however the 2nd half leaves me a bit cold, and drags the track down as a whole a couple of notches.
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Wow I feel almost the exact opposite way on both your points, I love listening to lyrics (one of the reasons I'm a big Rush and Marillion fan) A song with good lyrics and decent music is still a good song.
I love the Second half of A Plague of Lighthouse Keepes, during the first half I'm just anticipating the next part to come.
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Posted: February 25 2006 at 20:30 |
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I like more "weird" in my music than in my mouth so I'll go with VDDG and A plague of lighthouse keepers
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Posted: February 25 2006 at 20:49 |
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A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers is really moving - a much more intense listening experience than Supper's Ready. And more rewarding, I'd say. But both are great.
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Posted: February 25 2006 at 20:49 |
video vertigo wrote:
micky wrote:
never understood the hubbub
about Supper's Ready... a great epic to be sure. Find others like
Tarkus, Zarathustra, and Gates of Delirium superior in all facets
......other than lyrically which really don't mean a great
deal to me anyway. I'm a prog fan, especially prog that I
have NO CLUE what is being sung (Italian, Spanish, Magma).... give me
music.. if I cared much about lyrics I'd be listening to country
music.
A Plague of
Lighthouse Keepers... my two cents is I consider the first half
of that some of the best prog I've ever heard.... however the 2nd half
leaves me a bit cold, and drags the track down as a whole a couple of
notches.
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Wow I feel almost the exact opposite way on both your points, I love
listening to lyrics (one of the reasons I'm a big Rush and
Marillion fan) A song with good lyrics and decent music is still a
good song.
I love the Second half of A Plague of Lighthouse Keepes, during the first half I'm just anticipating the next part to come. |
that's why the good Lord gave us distinct personalities 
I'm not a lyrics person which is a good thing considering what I like
to listen to.... first Yes... then more 'exotic' stuff. I'm a part of
the 'voice is an instrument not just a means to tell a story'
movement. One reason I've never been put off by Jon Anderson..
plus I love his voice in the context it was used.
I'm not sure exactly what rubs me wrong about the 2nd half of
APoLH. I'll put that on again later this evening and see if I can
verbalize my thoughts.
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Posted: February 25 2006 at 22:57 |
Both are great and I like either... probably in my mind "A plague..." wins by a nose, but in my heart "Supper's ready" wins by a larger difference 'cause this epic brings me wonderful reminiscences of my teenager years. I discovered "A plague..." later, in my 20s. That's it. 
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