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Carl floyd fan
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Topic: The major groups in prog Posted: October 20 2004 at 00:58 |
This is strictly 60s and 70s BTW
I would say that any true prog fan should have at least one album from at least ten of the following bands, which I consider to be the main players. Feel free to add and take away, but I can't see how any of these bands would be taken away. Most of these bands continued for more than a decade and is part of the reason why some appear in the list.
Genesis, Yes, Pink Floyd, Camel, Van Der Graaf Generator, Focus, Ash Ra tempel, ELP, Gentle Giant, Caravan, Jethro Tull, Eloy, Gong, Hawkwind, King Crimson, The Moody Blues, The Soft Machine, Steve Hillage, Mike Oldfield, Can, Nektar, Barclay James Harvest and Jade Warrior.
I have many cds by all of those bands above and although I d/l from hundreds more, I need to be pointed in a good direction when it comes to 2nd-tier bands and purchasing actual cds.
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Posted: October 20 2004 at 04:34 |
Gentle Giant, Barclay james harvest, jade warrior, nektar and eloy are MINOR bands
Replace them by Soft machine, Amon dull, Agitation free, clearlight, and so many more...
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Posted: October 20 2004 at 04:49 |
...Popol vuh is a major band also
all their albums are excellent, contrary to many bands like Camel, or caravan which turn very bad in the late 70's...
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Posted: October 20 2004 at 05:28 |
Gentle Giant a MINOR band?! They practically DEFINE Progressive Rock!!
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Posted: October 20 2004 at 05:35 |
oliverstoned wrote:
Amon dull,
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Nice Freudian slip.....................
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Posted: October 20 2004 at 05:39 |
Trouserpress wrote:
Gentle Giant a MINOR band?! They practically DEFINE Progressive Rock!! |
You deceive me...
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Posted: October 20 2004 at 05:52 |
Carl floyd fan wrote:
This is strictly 60s and 70s BTW
I would say that any true prog fan should have at least one album from at least ten of the following bands, which I consider to be the main players. Feel free to add and take away, but I can't see how any of these bands would be taken away. Most of these bands continued for more than a decade and is part of the reason why some appear in the list.
Genesis, Yes, Pink Floyd, Camel, Van Der Graaf Generator, Focus, Ash Ra tempel, ELP, Gentle Giant, Caravan, Jethro Tull, Eloy, Gong, Hawkwind, King Crimson, The Moody Blues, The Soft Machine, Steve Hillage, Mike Oldfield, Can, Nektar, Barclay James Harvest and Jade Warrior.
I have many cds by all of those bands above and although I d/l from hundreds more, I need to be pointed in a good direction when it comes to 2nd-tier bands and purchasing actual cds.
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Several in your list I've avoided replacing vinyl with CD, because simply I find they have grown dull with time, on one or all their recordings.
However, "2nd tier" - which might be read as "could have made it if they had the luck of many of those you listed":
Touch: Touch - IMHO the first American prog band.
T2: It'll All Work Out In Boomland - demonstrating a guitar-lead trio could play prog.
Spooky Tooth/Pierre Henry: Ceremony (weird scenes inside a gold mine)
Flash: Flash & Flash In The Can (the Yes-spin-off band)
Ibis: Sun Surprise (a largely forgotten Italian/English band of the early 70's)
Kraan: any of the first 5 or so albums - especially Live - all remastered by EMI of Germany in the last 3 years.
Magma: Mekanïk Destruktiv Kommandöh
Be Bop Deluxe - interesting mix of glam rock and prog, e.g Axe Victim (Bill Nelson is currently touring a reformed BeBop Deluxe and their albums have just been reissued again on CD)
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Posted: October 20 2004 at 05:55 |
I explain why i don't like this band:
Forgetting the painful lyrics which are too present, the music is too jerked, not
enough fluid and too repetitive.
I like repetitive music, like in "Camembert electrique" or in "Inventions for electric guitar" but in Gentle giant, i find it boring and indisgestible...
So, for all these (subjective) reasons, i find this band overated.
Sorry for the fans...
I'm in unkind mood today!
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Posted: October 20 2004 at 05:56 |
PF, Gong, Soft Machine defined Prog
...not Gentle Giant!
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Posted: October 20 2004 at 06:35 |
I agree their music can be cluttered and clinical at times, but for me they were true innovators in music, and they also excite and enthrall me in a way that likes of Gong and the Softs also do.
Pink Floyd is the "major" band I've always had some difficulties trying to get into, which is controversial, I know. I love side one of Atom Heart Mother and there are many snatches of brilliance on Umma Gumma, but Dark Side of the Moon and the Wall do absolutely bugger all for me. Sorry chaps.
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Posted: October 20 2004 at 07:35 |
Yes i agree with you
Dark side is the beggining of the end for PF
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Posted: October 20 2004 at 07:36 |
I much prefer the 1968/72 period
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Posted: October 20 2004 at 08:37 |
And Trace, Triumvirat ? Kayak ? Mainstream bigtimers in their time. Renaissance ?
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Posted: October 20 2004 at 08:56 |
Renaissance are excellent cause they created their own style, made of romantism and delicate piano.
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Posted: October 20 2004 at 10:50 |
Lunarscape wrote:
And Trace, Triumvirat ? Kayak ? Mainstream bigtimers in their time. Renaissance ?
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Kayak ?![LOL](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif) ![LOL](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif) ![LOL](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
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Posted: October 20 2004 at 11:06 |
Don't forget U.K.
![](http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000003S12.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)
The seventies couldn't end on a sharper note.
Oh, Todd Rundgren's Utopia. Gotta have that:
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Check out the MP3 on the Bio page.
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Carl floyd fan
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Posted: October 20 2004 at 12:17 |
Holy Cow! I just got Faust 4! Man do they rock!!! I love krautrock (Neu, Zao, Dyzan, Eiliff, guru guru, can, A.R.T., A.D.2, ect, ect,) but somehow missed Faust. I think the song krautrock perfectly sums up the genre in one 11 minute song. Faust should be added cause Faust 4 was on a major label, virgin.
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Posted: October 20 2004 at 12:37 |
oliverstoned wrote:
Trouserpress wrote:
Gentle Giant a MINOR band?! They practically DEFINE Progressive Rock!! |
You deceive me...
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not 'deceive' but disappoint. You probably thought of the french word 'décevoir'.
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"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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Dick Heath
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Posted: October 20 2004 at 13:02 |
oliverstoned wrote:
PF, Gong, Soft Machine defined Prog
...not Gentle Giant!
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Let's be contentious.
PF: defined prog????
On a historical basis they were late in the game. Until Meddle or even Dark Side Of The Moon, we first generation British prog fans, wouldn't have included PF under the heading of 'prog', they were 'English psychedelic' (beit the most important British psychedelic band of the late 60's and early 70's). I suspect it was the American discovery of PF, and need to find a category for their music, that 'prog' was first used.
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Posted: October 20 2004 at 13:03 |
lucas wrote:
oliverstoned wrote:
Trouserpress wrote:
Gentle Giant a MINOR band?! They practically DEFINE Progressive Rock!! |
You deceive me...
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not 'deceive' but disappoint. You probably thought of the french word 'décevoir'.
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Absolutely
It's a "faux ami"
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