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Bob Greece
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Topic: My MP3 player broke! Posted: January 26 2006 at 03:52 |
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Lindsay Lohan
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Posted: January 26 2006 at 04:24 |
Be happy for it!
Listening to mp3 is painful for your ears and damages your brain you know...
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Bob Greece
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Posted: January 26 2006 at 04:48 |
Lindsay Lohan wrote:
Be happy for it!
Listening to mp3 is painful for your ears and damages your brain you know...
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Don't CD players do the same?
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Lindsay Lohan
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Posted: January 26 2006 at 04:54 |
Bob Greece wrote:
Lindsay Lohan wrote:
Be happy for it!
Listening to mp3 is painful for your ears and damages your brain you know...
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Don't CD players do the same?
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DONT YOU HEAR THE TREMENDOUS DIFFERENCE IN QUALITY BETWEEN MP3 AND CD'S
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oliverstoned
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Posted: January 26 2006 at 05:01 |
Bob Greece wrote:
Lindsay Lohan wrote:
Be happy for it!
Listening to mp3 is painful for your ears and damages your brain you know...
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Don't CD players do the same? |
Yes, but it depends. You'd be amazed what big Cd can do.
Something else than MP3.
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Bob Greece
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Posted: January 26 2006 at 05:07 |
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Yes, but it depends. You'd be amazed what big Cd can do. Something else than MP3. |
Exactly how big is a big CD?
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Bob Greece
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Posted: January 26 2006 at 05:08 |
Lindsay Lohan wrote:
DONT YOU HEAR THE TREMENDOUS DIFFERENCE IN QUALITY BETWEEN MP3 AND CD'S
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I never noticed the difference. Maybe I should get my ears checked?
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Lindsay Lohan
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Posted: January 26 2006 at 05:13 |
Bob Greece wrote:
Lindsay Lohan wrote:
DONT YOU HEAR THE TREMENDOUS DIFFERENCE IN QUALITY BETWEEN MP3 AND CD'S
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I never noticed the difference. Maybe I should get my ears checked?
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YES! playback the same cd in 192kbps mp3 and then listen to it on cd...if ye dont spot the difference you must be quite deaf!
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oliverstoned
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Posted: January 26 2006 at 05:25 |
Bob Greece wrote:
Lindsay Lohan wrote:
DONT YOU HEAR THE TREMENDOUS DIFFERENCE IN QUALITY BETWEEN MP3 AND CD'S
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I never noticed the difference. Maybe I should get my ears checked? |
You have probably very poor headphones.
The difference is also unnoticeable on a computer.
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Bob Greece
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Posted: January 26 2006 at 05:31 |
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You have probably very poor headphones. The difference is also unnoticeable on a computer. |
I use speakers (2 small speakers and a sub woofer). They're not brilliant of course but it's all I can afford and they're good enough for me.
What is this difference that people talk about? What sort of sounds go missing on an mp3 that you would normally get on a CD?
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oliverstoned
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Posted: January 26 2006 at 05:36 |
Compared to a good cd, MP3 is:
-Harsh, edgy, rough.
-Thin
-Flat
-Lacks of image (sound scene), dynamic, low, high, detail, precision, clarity, precense etc...
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Bob Greece
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Posted: January 26 2006 at 05:46 |
oliverstoned wrote:
Compared to a good cd, MP3 is:
-Harsh, edgy, rough. -Thin -Flat -Lacks of image (sound scene), dynamic, low, high, detail, precision, clarity, precense etc...
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Phew, that's quite a lot. Considering the huge compression in mp3s it's not surprising. OK, I'll try the test. I'll play an mp3 and a CD version of the same song side by side. As my mp3 player is broken, I will write the mp3 onto a CD first.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: January 26 2006 at 05:51 |
Bob Greece wrote:
oliverstoned wrote:
Compared to a good cd, MP3 is:
-Harsh, edgy, rough. -Thin -Flat -Lacks of image (sound scene), dynamic, low, high, detail, precision, clarity, precense etc...
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Phew, that's quite a lot. Considering the huge compression in mp3s it's not surprising. OK, I'll try the test. I'll play an mp3 and a CD version of the same song side by side. As my mp3 player is broken, I will write the mp3 onto a CD first.
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Here's how you can perform a listening test:
- Have someone burn two CDs for you - one exact copy of the original CD, the other one from the ripped mp3s. On two identical CD-Rs of course. Then that person marks one CD "A", the other one "B". Then you can listen to them, not knowing which is which.
But make it 192bps mp3 ... at 128kbps the difference is easily recognizable.
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Lindsay Lohan
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Posted: January 26 2006 at 05:56 |
even at 320kbps you should still notice the difference quite easy
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oliverstoned
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Posted: January 26 2006 at 06:06 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Bob Greece wrote:
oliverstoned wrote:
Compared to a good cd, MP3 is: -Harsh, edgy, rough. -Thin -Flat -Lacks of image (sound scene), dynamic, low, high, detail, precision, clarity, precense etc... |
Phew, that's quite a lot. Considering the huge compression in mp3s it's not surprising. OK, I'll try the test. I'll play an mp3 and a CD version of the same song side by side. As my mp3 player is broken, I will write the mp3 onto a CD first.
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Here's how you can perform a listening test:
- Have someone burn two CDs for you - one exact copy of the original CD, the other one from the ripped mp3s. On two identical CD-Rs of course. Then that person marks one CD "A", the other one "B". Then you can listen to them, not knowing which is which.
But make it 192bps mp3 ... at 128kbps the difference is easily recognizable. |
Even worst: i made this test with an original CD and a computer burned copy from that same cd.
Same adjectives than up for the computer burned CD...
i don't even talk about a MP3 burned CD...
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oliverstoned
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Posted: January 26 2006 at 06:11 |
You're right. Tape beats CD
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Lindsay Lohan
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Posted: January 26 2006 at 06:13 |
ive even tried to listen on a burned 128kbps mp3 cd on a nautilus 802...
it was even hooked up to a gryphon pure class A amp...oh the humanity
ah the pain the pain...i found it impossible to enjoy even my favourite songs...
Edited by Lindsay Lohan
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Bob Greece
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Posted: January 26 2006 at 06:18 |
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Tape beats CD |
I've become something of an expert at fixing old cassettes. If a cassette starts to play badly, I will crack open the case, take out the tape, unscrew the case of a blank cassette and put the tape into the new case. 99% of the time it fixes the problems.
Has anyone-else done this? Or similar stuff?
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Lindsay Lohan
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Posted: January 26 2006 at 06:21 |
Antileon Signature Mono
Look at that beauty...and yes you dont need to have any additonal heating in a room if ye got two of these babies
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oliverstoned
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Posted: January 26 2006 at 06:26 |
My CD:
Drive Sonic frontiers SFT-1
Converter Goldmund Mimesis 14
Nordost Digital cable
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