Guitar verses Keyboard

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   Listening to Van Der Graaf Generator recently I realised despite enjoying it there was something in their sound missing could it be Guitar ? ... I also listened to Wishbone Ash recently and I enjoyed them also but once again there was something missing, perhaps  keyboards ?
 My Question is this , what instrument  cant Prog do without ?    

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Poll Question: What Instrument is most important for a prog band ?
Poll Choice	Votes	Poll Statistics
Guitar	24	[50.00%]
Keyboard	24	[50.00%]
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Guests Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Guest Group	Topic: Guitar verses Keyboard Posted: November 15 2005 at 09:09
	Listening to Van Der Graaf Generator recently I realised despite enjoying it there was something in their sound missing could it be Guitar ? ... I also listened to Wishbone Ash recently and I enjoyed them also but once again there was something missing, perhaps keyboards ? My Question is this , what instrument cant Prog do without ? Edited by s1ipp3ry

sleeper Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Prog Reviewer Joined: October 09 2005 Location: Entropia Status: Offline Points: 16449	Posted: November 15 2005 at 09:22
	Bass and Drums
	Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005

Moogtron III Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Prog Reviewer Joined: April 26 2005 Location: Belgium Status: Offline Points: 10616	Posted: November 15 2005 at 09:38
	It can do without anything, but like Sleeper, I'd say bass and drums will be sorely missed if they aren't there. Personally I like keyboards more than any other instrument, but still there's a lot of great music without keyboards. Edited by Moogtron III

Morandar Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Groupie Joined: July 25 2005 Status: Offline Points: 52	Posted: November 15 2005 at 09:50
	I'm a keyboardist. Simply put: no keys = no music. :D Speaking seriously, keys are VERY important to prog. But there's no instrument which is not essential. Voice is an instrument too, but in prog we make instruments sing.
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Guests Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Guest Group	Posted: November 15 2005 at 09:52
	Question looks like "what is more important for people - arms or legs?". Obviously each instrument is important.

Atkingani Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: October 21 2005 Location: Terra Brasilis Status: Offline Points: 12288	Posted: November 15 2005 at 11:00
	Keyboards are very important for the prog-scene but GUITAR rules since it is rock!
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Trotsky Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 25 2004 Location: Malaysia Status: Offline Points: 2771	Posted: November 15 2005 at 11:33
	keyboards
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Bj-1 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 04 2005 Location: No(r)Way Status: Offline Points: 31520	Posted: November 15 2005 at 14:21
	Both, IMO
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krusty Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: September 27 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1777	Posted: November 15 2005 at 15:04
	I think I'd miss quitar most.
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King of Loss Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Prog Reviewer Joined: April 21 2005 Location: Boston, MA Status: Offline Points: 16673	Posted: November 15 2005 at 16:23
	Both are equally important because without guitarists like Howe, Hackett, Fripp, Lifeson, Stolt, etc. Prog as we know it won't exist. Same with keyboards like Minnear, Emerson, Wakeman, Banks, etc.

Blacksword Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Prog Reviewer Joined: June 22 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 16130	Posted: November 15 2005 at 16:26
	I like both, but generally I like to hear a guitar in a band. However, some bands like VDGG dont really suffer for the lack of guitar. It's part of their sound and their quirkiness and they manage it and compensate for it excellently IMO. Rush on the other hand will always be better with some keyboards IMO. I like their last few albums, but it's not really the Rush I like. I felt they struck a good balance on "moving Pictures' and 'Permenant Waves'
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The Green Tank Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: November 06 2005 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 244	Posted: November 15 2005 at 20:34
	I think keybaords are more important in prog, cause sure you can have a great prog band with no keybaords, but just the massive array of sounds you can do with keyboards brings your music to phenomenal levels.

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	Prog is partly distinguised by it's use of keyboards, personally i wouldn't find Lake and Palmer to be even remotely cool as Emerson, Lake, and Palmer. Keyboards are not required for prog, but they are a cornerstone of this genre. Guitar is an essential part of almost any band, but guitar has little to do with the identity of a band/genre. I voted keyboards. Another note: A guitar will never have the tonal diversity of a Moog, Virus, or digital synth.
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Drew Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: June 20 2005 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 12600	Posted: November 15 2005 at 20:57
	Don't see how this is even closs- take out the Guitar- lose the Rock in "Progressive Rock"

Guests Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Guest Group	Posted: November 15 2005 at 21:04
	I think that the drummer is is the rock in progressive rock as I have no doubt Van Der Graaf Generator are progressive rock and they do not have a guitarist (6 and 12 string) I also think a decent vocalist can cover the keys and guitar to a point. But if I had my choice I would have every instrument found in bands like Yes and Genesis.

The Wizard Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Prog Reviewer Joined: July 18 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 7341	Posted: November 15 2005 at 21:11
	It is important to have the rock in progressive rock. But guitars aren't needed to rock out, just look at ELP and VDGG. But I'll go with guitar anyway.


Mad Bass Player Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Groupie Joined: September 13 2005 Status: Offline Points: 63	Posted: November 15 2005 at 21:26
	Bass, Drums, Guitar, Keyboards, and Vocals are all equally important to me. But if I had to choose, I'd say keyboard, being a keyboardist myself.

Guests Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Guest Group	Posted: November 16 2005 at 01:58
	As mentioned, you can work with one or the other, both or neither (though I'd hate to hear that). While I may like the keyboards better in many cases, the guitar tends to carry more songs in prog (and rock in general). So I'll take the guitar.

Pafnutij Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: October 02 2005 Location: Russian Federation Status: Offline Points: 415	Posted: November 16 2005 at 02:27
	Keys. They have more harmonic possibilities, not too mention the variety of tones and sounds.