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Forum Senior Member Joined: June 20 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 764 |
Topic: bush vs kerry Posted: August 08 2004 at 16:38 |
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who are you backing?
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You want the spoon? You can't handle the spoon!
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Certif1ed
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 08 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 7559 |
Posted: August 08 2004 at 16:44 | |
I'd back Mr Bean over either of those two any day... |
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asuma
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 23 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 230 |
Posted: August 08 2004 at 18:06 | |
a vote for bush IS a vote for kerry
taken from indymedia "Four years and one bubble pop later, we have a choice between two guys from Skulls and Bones and one guy from Hell's Angels. If you want to see a political miracle in America, smash the skulls, bury dem bones and take a ride on the wild side. Vote for Ralph Nader. Anybody but Bush says you. I say anybody but Bush or Kerry. I know Kerry is saner, infinitely better educated and certainly more intelligent than Bush. Like a number of professional psychiatrists, I have serious concern about Bush's mental health. I understand that a second term for Bush might lead to an apocalyptic disaster. If he got a call from God to go to war in Iraq, George might very well move on to Armageddon next time the imaginary phone rings. But why bother kicking Bush and his neocons out of office only to see them replaced by Kerry and his neo-branded neocons. Why should any American put up with the disgraceful sight of Kerry licking Ariel Sharon's boots? Is there any historical precedent for a presidential candidate who was rebuffed by a foreign leader reacting like this pitifully spineless Democrat? Sharon snubbed Kerry by not giving him an appointment on his last visit to Washington. Kerry responded to this calculated insult by dispatching his brother to Tel Aviv on an AIPAC sponsored tour. Cameron Kerry's mission was to vocally proclaim his Jewish faith and use it as leverage to gain access to Ariel Sharon to pledge his brother's fealty to Israel. It was like a scene from the Godfather, with Sharon taking Brando's role and Kerry's brother pledging omerta to the mob. I never knew a guy as tall as John Kerry could stoop that low. But Kerry will not lose my vote because I am a single-issue voter who is guilty of obsessing about Palestinian rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. My vote will go to Nader because of my conviction that politicians who formulate racist foreign policies for dealing with Palestinians are very likely to have racist sentiments against Arab-Americans. For my sacred honor as an American, I will never again vote for a Democrat or a Republican till hell freezes over. I have taken all I am ever going to take from the political vermin that infest both major parties. The way I figure it, I would rather not vote at all when presented with a choice of two bigots. Call me sensitive, but I am offended that a tolerant America seems incapable of presenting me with a political alternative that I can accept without wounding my personal dignity. Over night, in the wake of the terror attacks of 9/11, I saw my status as an American reduced from first class citizenship to a second-class national of suspect origins. It was a loss of fortune that cannot be measured in dollars. I would rather have woken up in bankruptcy court.I went to sleep in an America where I was the equal of every other American and woke up to a life in the shadow of the Patriot Act - an assault on my personal liberty that was inflicted by both Democrats and Republicans. This November, some Americans will vote their pocket book; others will vote for universal health insurance or a balanced budget or still lower taxes. Some Americans will have the luxury of choosing between candidates who support gay marriage and those who oppose it. A small minority will cast their vote in favor of stem cell research or against the Neanderthals who are against it. Issues like higher minimum wage and veterans benefits will rank high on the priority list of Democrats. The Republicans will vote for more guns and a more generous slice of butter for the upper crust. Those Americans who belong to the Judeo-Christian identity movement will vote for Bush in the promise that he will make the state look more like the church. The vast majority will vote for the party their families and ethnic groups traditionally vote for. As for my vote, it will go to the one candidate who promises to restore my first-class citizenship. That man is Ralph Nader. Allow me to make an appeal to other voters who still champion the exotic notion that equal rights should extend to Americans whose heritage challenges the Euro-centric Bush/Kerry claims to a monopoly on 'values'. I will not allow my values to be challenged by men who condone repression abroad for a few votes on the home front. Given the choice between democracy and a pseudo-theocracy, I will choose democracy every time. I will not sit silent and grant two amoral degenerates the right to challenge my personal ethics. My values will trump their values any day of the week. Like the vast majority of Americans, I am more tolerant and more humane than both the president and the candidate. Their conscience has gone AWOL. Mine is still intact. No blood of an innocent child stains my hand. I do not consort with serial war criminals. They embrace them. I still do body counts. And for me, every body counts. So, I insist on casting my vote for a president; not a holier-than-thou preacher who comes nowhere close to being holier than moi. Before other Arab-Americans cast their vote, I want their mind to drift back a few decades when being of Lebanese or Syrian descent was no more a burden than being of Greek origins or Jewish heritage. Look around you and notice that it wasn't your fellow Americans who assaulted your rights - it was the Democratic and Republican establishment and the racist mass media lords. Wake up and smell the coffee. We are living in a media controlled state - a virtual Murdochracy. Arab-baiting hate TV rules the airwaves and ambitious power hungry politicians are more than happy to play their assigned roles as mudslingers. Believe me, I instinctively know that Bush is an intellectually challenged man who can barely complete a sentence - unless David Frum wrote it for him. But Kerry is also a sorry excuse of a human being. Forget about what they will do to the folks in the old country and consider what they have already done to Arab-Americans over here. Ask yourself a few simple questions. Does your government consider you less of an American than you were four years ago? Did you personally do anything to deserve a demotion to second class citizenship? Did the Democrats stand up for you when your civil rights were assaulted? Did Kerry or Edwards utter a word in your defense? When the United States government incites Sharon to escalate his campaign of terror against the Palestinians, are they not sending a clear message to your kids about the value of an Arab life - over there and by extension over here. In deliberately inflaming the Middle East, do they ever care about how it effects our pursuit of happiness and our sense of well being? Are they unaware that their racist foreign policies can only be marketed in a domestic environment where bigotry is nurtured by the likes of Rupert Murdoch and his clones at CNN? Can they even begin to understand what that does to the self-esteem of our kids? So, this November, vote your dreams, not your fears. Vote for the land you want your children to inherit and against political parties that cast you aside. Vote for Ralph Nader and make a pledge to teach your kids to never give a Democrat or a Republican the time of day. If Nader is pressured to pull out of the race, vote for the Green Party or the Libertarians or don't vote. " |
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*Remember all advice given by Asuma is for entertainment purposes only. Asuma is not a licensed medical doctor, psychologist, or counselor and he does not play one on TV.*
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Bryan
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Posted: August 08 2004 at 18:10 | |
Wow, I didn't know Michael Moore wrote for indymedia. |
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James Lee
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Posted: August 08 2004 at 19:23 | |
Whatever you do, don't kid yourself that the Libertarians are a worthy choice. If you think that Bush allows corporations overly generous leeway, read the Libertarian Party's plan for the future...and what could be more hypocritical than a party which promotes unbridled free trade and yet enjoys all the benefits of being a non-profit organization? The leaders of the party are all existing outside the private sector, enjoying tax-exempt status, and yet they consistently oppose any sort of government assistance to the poor or unfortunate. Last time around, it was a choice between an alcoholic cocaine-using education-stifling oil company puppet ex-governor (Bush) and a droning charisma-less featherweight lying oil-connected puppet ex-VP (Gore). I voted for Nader, who made it clear that his bid for presidency was only a tactic to create awareness of his party's beliefs and thereby make a later candidacy from that party more viable. When confronted with the opinion that his supporters had stolen Gore's votes, he joked that Gore had stolen his- and that quote has since been twisted and taken out of context in an attempt to make him seem out of touch with reality. Can we even trust the voting process? After the depressing farce of the recount, the paper-based voting machines were relaced with completely self-contained electronic devices. This eliminated any sort of paper trail for auditing purposes, and the company which produces them has refused to allow any outide audits- citing privacy concerns and "intellectual property" laws (as a corporation, they have the same rights as individuals under a bizarre perversion of US law). After ignoring numerous expressed concerns about the electronic voting machines, the GOP has quietly issued a document urging voters to use absentee ballots rather than take the risk that votes for them might be counted improperly...see http://www.blackboxvoting.com/ for more info... Now it's a choice between an unstable warmonger and a shamelessly opportunistic chameleon. Never has the 'lesser of two evils' argument been used so passionately- Michael Moore, who should know better, recently publicly begged Nader to drop out so Kerry would have a better chance. If you have the choice between driving a car with dangerous emissions or a car with slightly less dangerous emissions, perhaps choosing not to drive at all is not such a bad thing. Though all sorts of appeals to our right to vote are manifesting themselves- often attempting to make you feel that there's some sort of moral failure in not voting- abstaining from a vote is a perfectly reasonable choice; Senators and Representatives abstain from voting on Capitol Hill all the time, so it's obviously an accepted part of the American political process, right? As for me, I haven't decided. If I had to vote right now it would be a tough choice between Nader and Nobody, but I'm still watching Kerry just in case he does something unexpected to win me over, or disgust me completely. Bush should be forced out, just as his relatively less objectionable father was after a single scary term, but that's as much as I can say for certain just yet. |
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The Prognaut
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 14 2004 Location: Somewhere Else Status: Offline Points: 1492 |
Posted: August 08 2004 at 22:11 | |
I'm with you Cert!
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break the circle
reset my head wake the sleepwalker and i'll wake the dead |
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Velvetclown
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Posted: August 09 2004 at 05:54 | |
No matter who you vote for, the government gets in
WonŽt get fooled again Edited by Velvetclown |
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Velvetclown
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Posted: August 09 2004 at 05:55 | |
The only Bush I trust is my own
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Blacksword
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Posted: August 09 2004 at 15:57 | |
My vote's for Crusty the clown. A far better public speaker than Mr Bean. Edited by Blacksword |
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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asuma
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 23 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 230 |
Posted: August 09 2004 at 21:54 | |
i'm voting for koddos
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*Remember all advice given by Asuma is for entertainment purposes only. Asuma is not a licensed medical doctor, psychologist, or counselor and he does not play one on TV.*
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Bryan
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Posted: August 09 2004 at 22:06 | |
Kang all the way! |
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asuma
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 23 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 230 |
Posted: August 09 2004 at 22:09 | |
boooooo |
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*Remember all advice given by Asuma is for entertainment purposes only. Asuma is not a licensed medical doctor, psychologist, or counselor and he does not play one on TV.*
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threefates
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Posted: August 09 2004 at 22:10 | |
I'm voting for the first one who wears a Pink Floyd tee shirt...
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THIS IS ELP
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The Prognaut
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 14 2004 Location: Somewhere Else Status: Offline Points: 1492 |
Posted: August 09 2004 at 23:20 | |
Yuck!
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break the circle
reset my head wake the sleepwalker and i'll wake the dead |
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Certif1ed
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Posted: August 10 2004 at 03:34 | |
Velvetclown
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Posted: August 10 2004 at 09:02 | |
Can you really trust anyone who listens to the Third Ear Band I didnŽt think so
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Velvetclown
Forum Senior Member Joined: February 13 2004 Status: Offline Points: 8548 |
Posted: August 10 2004 at 09:04 | |
Whatever happened to the musicscene in the UK after the 70s ??????????? Way back then 90% of all good music came from The UK.
It took 20 years for USA to understand what great music was all about,
but after the neo prog movement in the UK, almost nuttin
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JrKASperov
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Posted: August 10 2004 at 10:57 | |
I'm voting for the first female candidate wearing a see-through Pink Floyd shirt.
And no bra |
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Epic.
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Velvetclown
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Posted: August 10 2004 at 11:54 | |
IŽll second that, a President with it all hanging out, great
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Velvetclown
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Posted: August 10 2004 at 11:55 | |
Dark side of the nipple , Wow
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