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    Posted: 6 hours 1 minutes ago at 06:04

I know I'm probably really late to the party, but I just stumbled across an artist from Finland who creates all AI generated music in the styles of old artists. His project is called Unreal Rock Songshttps://unrealrocksongs.bandcamp.com/ He's also very prominent and increasingly prolific on YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/@unrealrocksongs

The music is really good--really clean, professional, and nuanced though with a modern production "austerity"--and it's all original and all AI! Part of me wants to run for the hills, but part of me is intrigued--and entertained! I guess I'm finding out that my bottom line is: I just like good music! I want to promote hard-working musicians who are striving to create great music, but now if you can have ChatGPT do it for you . . . why not?

What are your thoughts and feelings?


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Death to A.I.; long live the new flesh, to alter certain Videodrome dialogue.

There was a discussion on this topic before and the whole thing not only makes me very uneasy, but really depresses me. I am not at all ready to embrace AI generated music, and it's not just the results that I care about, but the process, and the value of certain kinds of human creativity.

I don't like AI generating the reviews, the music, the posts, the stories, the essays, the artwork, and it has affected the work I have been in very much.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 5 hours 27 minutes ago at 06:38
What Greg said...
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^To me, it sounds TOO clean and TOO precise. Maybe AI technology will grow to put human imperfections into the music to make it sound more human.

Years ago when I was messing around making MIDI tracks, the unrelenting precision of the drum beat sounded too mechanical, so I concocted a CAL script (in Cakewalk) to slowly vary the beat, in a low-pass-filtered random sort of way, over the duration of the track, and it sounded a lot better... more human.

When sequencer-driven synths hit the scene in a big way back in the early 70's, people objected because "that wasn't music created by a human". Now many of us don't blink an eye and accept it as part of music, knowing that a human concocted and controlled the sequence in the first place. I suppose AI might have the same evolution.

Like you, I am intrigued.
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I will not view AI art or listen to AI music. I don't fear it. I just have no interest in it whatsoever. A huge part of "art" for me is a human connection. I want to preserve that link between humans, and I only want to "consume" the feelings and creativity of other humans, as old-fashioned as that may be. For that reason, I just choose not to even start with AI. I don't care if it's "good" or not. There is so much great human art to appreciate that one can only scratch the surface over a whole lifetime.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Easy Money Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 4 hours 23 minutes ago at 07:42
I don't care for the obvious phoniness of AI. A lot of youtube docs are narrated by AI now and I can't stand listening to those smooth robotic voices and their constant errors in voice inflection and pronunciation.
Musk is here in Memphis building his AI super computer and it brings massive toxic pollution, so this subject is especially sore around here.
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That channel is de facto a scam. Yep. You heard me right. Scam. If you go to their bandcamp, you'll see that they're actually selling this content.

I can play Devil's Advocate here, sure. I can see it as a toy. But as soon as monetizing this type of content comes into play, that's a red flag for me.

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Also, thanks for the warning, BrufordFreak. I've just blocked this scammer turd with ChannelBlocker.
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Hi,

The side of it all is how some corporate folks want to replace people (employees) with some AI, figuring that it would cost less ... and I think there may be a comment on this idea. As Frank Zappa said ... "there has to be a song somewhere in there!"

1. The company got too big!

2. The code artist doing this is getting back at the company that would not hire him/her and pay them!

3. The whole idea is not exactly honest, as far as I can tell, and the music example above is scary ... and reminds me of that computer thing in California at one time, that folks thought was really good, until a couple of days later, they were told it was a computer ... and the hatred started up! Nobody ever heard from that group again, and what they did, and I would not be surprised if they lost all kinds of grants and moneys.

4. The educational value of teaching MUSIC in schools is gone. Specially in America where one political party has spent the last 50 years taking money away from all the arts and making sure that it is not available in the schools, since the arts are often known to be too liberal for that group's politics, and chances of winning more elections ... so they rely on folks not "knowing" or not "having" any idea of what the arts can do and have done for many years in the Western World ... this is not the case in a few other places where the arts are heavily controlled.

5. Our own understanding and appreciation for the knowledge that it took to create the AI, is a problem ... we now see it as a problem, when before it was exciting research!

6. One guy in busking in the big house, will immediately replace people/employees with AI, because in the end it is cheaper ... and that turkey thinks that the AI will not need regular maintenance and work. Very naive in my book, but this is more about "control" and the "power" of being so rich that no one can stop it any more, and on top of it, the media loves it, because he likely owns a serious percentage of it anyway! Same thing happened when Disney picked up ESPN, and the fun went out the window within the year ... we all watched ESPN for the fun and the antics ... and all of a sudden it was cheap jokes, and dry, cold and boring news ... and no fun!

7. The grass is always greener on the other side, and hate it or not, we will not go to the polls and get rid of the folks making sure that the AI folks get in to the big houses!

8. Go ahead and hate it ... what are you doing about it?

Edited by moshkito - 1 hour 32 minutes ago at 10:33
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