king crimson

my question is simple. was king crimson undeappricaited during the final strech of their career? (1995-2003)(function(){function c(){var b=a.contentDocument||a.contentWindow.document;if(b){var d=b.createElement('script');d.innerHTML="window.__CF$cv$params={r:'8e7ac3c0e8735c7a',t:'MTczMjQ2NTYyOC4wMDAwMDA='};var a=document.createElement('script');a.nonce='';a.src='/cdn-cgi/challenge-platform/scripts/jsd/main.js';document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(a);";b.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(d)}}if(document.body){var a=document.createElement('iframe');a.height=1;a.width=1;a.style.position='absolute';a.style.top=0;a.style.left=0;a.style.border='none';a.style.visibility='hidden';document.body.appendChild(a);if('loading'!==document.readyState)c();else if(window.addEventListener)document.addEventListener('DOMContentLoaded',c);else{var e=document.onreadystatechange||function(){};document.onreadystatechange=function(b){e(b);'loading'!==document.readyState&&(document.onreadystatechange=e,c())}}}})();< height="1" width="1" style=": ; top: 0px; left: 0px; border: none; visibility: ;">

Never heard of them.

republicasolska wrote: No. Basically everything after the 70s is nonsense.

Edited by ThyroidGlands - November 30 2024 at 15:27

ConstruKction is densely recorded, and I think heavily compressed and not very dynamic because of it. A very flat sound throughout...  Otherwise a great album.

Edited by Valdez - November 30 2024 at 19:35

I can happily listen to just about all of their albums no matter who is in the band, except for thrakattak and projekct X .   I like toapp better than discipline and beat . Court Poseidon and Lizard are my favorites. Jakko did a good job overall on the last tour and having Mel along really aced it. PtBelieve is good except for all that slow Bude stuff IMO.

Edited by Valdez - December 01 2024 at 00:02

I'm not so keen on Power to Believe and ConstruKction. I like Thrak a lot though, and particularly I am very happy having seen their 2010s-2020s incarnation with the three drummers live on stage. OK they played mostly old material, but the rearrangements were something very special. The live albums from this period are also very good as far as I know them, so 1995-2003 should definitely not be called "final stretch of their career" (good work was also still coming from ProjeKcts), and I prefer their "final final stretch" if that was actually final. 

Edited by Lewian - December 10 2024 at 05:46

I don't know about during that 95-03 period, but The Power to Believe has become one of their best rated albums. Also, at the very last stretch of their career, during the 2010's touring, they were indeed very greatly appreciated... by prog fans, that is.

King Crimson aren't underrated. Maybe among non prog fans but they are typically one of the first prog bands people discover these days (or any day).

Logan wrote: I don't know if King Crimson is underappreciated during the last stretch of its career, but I would not expect that to be as appreciated as its first stretch (1969 through 1974). Radical Action (To Unseat the Hold of Monkey Mind) is a highly regarded modern KC live album.

The opinions on Prog are vast and many times contradicting of your own ( whether somewhat fact based or documented in history as important or not), that is human life and the natural ability for a person to hear something in the music that you don't. People find dissatisfaction in life because someone else's viewpoint differs from their own...not unlike two ten year old children in 1966 arguing who is better...The Beatles or The Rolling Stones..

The Beatles are the nice guys in suits and the Rolling Stones are the bad boys photographed dressed in drag or pushing a baby carriage over a cliff. People have a tendency to apply a band's image or vibe to their own agenda. The question is...does any of that have real value? The Beatles and the Stones were important to Rock Music regardless of how they dressed or influenced people to dress.

In Progressive Rock there's a lot of harsh judgment toward certain bands and it all develops into disagreement between people. Someone might say that the band SKY had no soul and then turn around and state that YES DRAMA is great. This is too far out in left field for anyone to conceive short of being their preference. Music critics are often guilty of summing up a particular Prog album based solely on their opinion of it...in other words their taste in music.

It is unfortunate that a critics taste in music overrules the mention of facts. Details often get left out or perhaps mentioned in a very subtle way while all the emphasis on presenting the album as "suck" dominates the subject matter..which is why...in the end the newcomers to Prog must sample a full album on YouTube to ultimately decide . Especially KING CRIMSON!



Edited by Jacob Schoolcraft - January 23 2025 at 18:03