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    Posted: January 05 2024 at 18:49
Well... as much as Steve Howe and Mike Oldfield don't have a singing voice (they're alright... but nothing great), i'm sure there are others.

While some may be very talented on their own instruments, they may not be able to carry a tune to save their life!

Here's a bonus clip of Robert Fripp all dressed up with his wife Toya, singing 'I'm Too Sexy'




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Charles Gendron Carrier from Leitmotiv can't sing in key no matter what.
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I've never heard Bill Bruford sing so perhaps he counts as well. I'm not sure about Rick Wakeman. He was classically trained so he probably was able to sing in key but he chose not to.

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Another good example: Mike Rutherford.

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Steve Vai

Steve Howe

Chris Squire

Glenn Tipton

Many solo artists from famous bands who weren't the lead singer actually.


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^Squire has a decent voice imo, his backing vocals are great
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What are you talking about, SP? Chris Squire was IMO a fantastic singer.
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Most of 'em can't sing... Does it matter if they don't even engage in it?
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For sure Squire had a pretty good singing voice! Especially for someone who was mostly providing backing and harmony vocals.
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Tony Banks is not that good either. He sang on his 1983 synth-pop album. 
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my favorite guitarist can’t sing - - not lead singer material at all- if he didn’t sing on many of his albums they would have been bigger hits- Hackett—
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The mention of Squire as being someone who can’t sing suggests to me that California has an even bigger illicit substance problem then first thought Dead
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Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

The mention of Squire as being someone who can’t sing suggests to me that California has an even bigger illicit substance problem then first thought Dead

Haha! Funny. Don't do drugs or even drink alcohol. No pot, no pharmaceuticals, no nothing toxic.

So let's unpack this. Just because somebody can hit the notes doesn't mean that the tones and range of their vocal style are suitable to the music they release. In the case of Squire i have found that his lack of range and ability to take the music to the next level that the music implies is totally inadequate.

Leonard Cohen on the other hand who has a very limited vocal range found the perfect style of music to suit his limited range and it works.

And let's not forget that these things are all subjective. There are many who don't like Jon Anderson, Ian Anderson or some of the biggest and most celebrated vocalists in prog.

Squire made a great backup singer but his Fish Out Of Water album to my ears could've been SOOOO much better with a vocalist capable of matching the music.


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Quote Squire made a great backup singer but his Fish Out Of Water album to my ears could've been SOOOO much better with a vocalist capable of matching the music.
But keep in mind this topic focuses on "bad singers" and not those whose voices we don't like. If that was the case, I'd list singers such as Frank Bornemann or Jon Davison.
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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Quote Squire made a great backup singer but his Fish Out Of Water album to my ears could've been SOOOO much better with a vocalist capable of matching the music.
But keep in mind this topic focuses on "bad singers" and not those whose voices we don't like. If that was the case, I'd list singers such as Frank Bornemann or Jon Davison.


Vocalists who don't know how to adapt to the music ARE BAD SINGERS

What is a bad singer?

Either:
Someone who can't hit the right notes / perfect pitch
Someone who strains to adapt to the music and obviously can't
Someone who tries to sing to material they clearly are incapable of i.e. lackluster performance resulting in a disappointing accompaniment to the music (this is common in lots of prog metal)

And personally i DO FIND Chris Squire to be a bad singer. So sue me! LOL


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Quote Someone who strains to adapt to the music and obviously can't
So Peter Gabriel totally qualifies as a bad singer. xD Listen to Can Untility. He really strains his voice at the last part (where he goes "See a little man...").

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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Quote Someone who strains to adapt to the music and obviously can't
So Peter Gabriel totally qualifies as a bad singer. xD Listen to Can Untility. He really strains his voice at the last part (where he goes "See a little man...").

Just playing with ya. It's ok to have a unique taste!

Actually i agree. Peter Gabriel is a bad singer. The difference is he adapts the music to suit his vocals.

Personally i love how his limited singing is set to his unique brand of art rock.

Squire always tried to match the music of Yes instead of changing the music to suit his vocals.

THAT'S the difference.

Bad singing can actually work in an artist's favor if the music is composed to contrast in an interesting way.

The Shaggs are the perfect example!


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In effect BAD SINGING is RELATIVE to the music the vocals are set to

BAD SINGING results from trying to force one style of singing onto a musical style that doesn't work

Ozzy Osbourne is not a great singer either but worked perfectly in Black Sabbath

Celine Dion is an amazing singer but is utterly boring because the music is just so awful
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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

In effect BAD SINGING is RELATIVE to the music the vocals are set to
BAD SINGING results from trying to force one style of singing onto a musical style that doesn't work
Ozzy Osbourne is not a great singer either but worked perfectly in Black Sabbath
Celine Dion is an amazing singer but is utterly boring because the music is just so awful
 

That's true. There are quite a few great singers in Euro-power metal, but the music has become so generic, it's beloved just by die-hard fans. 

There are also vocalists with little range that fit the music they create. Kevin Moore is one such example. I liked him a lot in both Chroma Key and OSI. Smile


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