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jamesbaldwin 
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 Topic: Interactive Poll: Live Again!Posted: November 12 2022 at 17:52 |
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Are you ready?
I want to get back involved. Here are the rules. Please choose: 1) Two live songs by any group (you can also choose a prog group if you want) lasting no longer than 5 minutes or in total no longer than 10 minutes (e.g. 3 minutes one song is fine, 7 minutes the other) 2) A live piece longer than 7 minutes, from 7 minutes to 15 minutes, by an artist not listed on Progarchives In the end, each of us will have nominated three songs, two medium-short and one long. So there can be a maximum of 8 participants in this poll (8 x 3 = 24) but if there are more participants, no problem, I'll open another poll parallel to this one to enter the nominated songs that exceed 24. In the end, each forumist will vote for 6 songs: - 4 songs taken from the medium-short songs - 2 songs taken from the long songs Have fun! Comments on the songs are welcome Edited by jamesbaldwin - November 29 2022 at 08:39 |
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Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.
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jamesbaldwin
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Posted: November 12 2022 at 18:01 |
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Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.
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Mila-13
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Posted: November 13 2022 at 00:25 |
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@Lorenzo, is this about live performances on stage only or do e.g. performances on a tv-show or live studio sessions count as well?
Btw. with live performances a time limit can be a bit difficult. Extended versions of songs are often played including impros. A limitation to one song per entry is feasible. However, instrumental pieces are often longer. Edited by Mila-13 - November 13 2022 at 01:41 |
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jamesbaldwin
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Posted: November 13 2022 at 02:24 |
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MILA:
@Lorenzo, is this about live performances on stage only or do e.g. performances on a tv-show - Performance in tv is ok or live studio sessions count as well? - No, there must be an audience that listens. Btw. with live performances a time limit can be a bit difficult. Extended versions of songs are often played including impros. A limitation to one song per entry is feasible. However, instrumental pieces are often longer. - I put an average time limit precisely because live performances are likely to be long, and I would not want someone to put on two 10-minute mini-suites or jam sessions (total 20 minutes): since we have to listen to two songs, I would not want to make this obligation too demanding, and so I put a maximum time limit of 5 minutes per song, so at most we listen to music for 10 minutes. In short, the songs cannot be long, they are medium-short. But, to be more flexible, I can say that one can be even longer than 5 minutes (for example about 7 minutes) and the other must be shorter (for example about 3 minutes) |
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Mila-13
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Posted: November 13 2022 at 05:47 |
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When it comes to live performances, I need more time to find two short songs than one longer piece or song, you see? But this two-stage voting procedure does not allow this option which I personally prefer.
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jamesbaldwin
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Posted: November 13 2022 at 05:56 |
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I have changed the rules!
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Posted: November 13 2022 at 06:19 |
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We got time...
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Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.
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Lewian
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Posted: November 13 2022 at 08:56 |
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I also find it far easier to find long live versions that I love than short ones, so I start with a long one. Everybody knows this band, maybe too many know this song even, but they haven't appeared in the interactive polls yet as far as I remember. Also in the beginning you may wonder whether it's a live video and the sound is remastered, still later you see the show and it's a fabulous thing really. The Cure started their Wish album and the tour with a song called "Open" and ended it with a song called "End". Both of these are perfect for opening and ending, and are among my most listened to Cure songs. Here is "Open". Edited by Lewian - November 13 2022 at 08:58 |
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Posted: November 13 2022 at 09:22 |
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OK, the shorter ones. Very British this time. Killing Joke - Asteroid (one of my fav live videos, I hope I haven't used it already) Public Service Broadcasting - Go! "Keep the chatter down in this room!" "We're off to a good start!" |
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Posted: November 13 2022 at 11:10 |
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A very short one, a forty years old track, but they're still going strong... Fischer-Z - Limbo: And if you want to sing along, the lyrics are not that complicated, and very much repeated: A riddle - a piddle - a middle - again LIMBO The razamataz is a pain in the bum The next one, a bit longer, by a band who display a wonderful energy on stage. They're also still going strong, but I chose an old video for this one. Tętes Raides - Patalo: (you can find the lyrics and some kind of English translation here) |
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Posted: November 13 2022 at 11:22 |
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And my long one; would love to see her live, some day... (for the video, they used some tricks) Hildur Guđnadóttir - Composition for halldorophone #5: |
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The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
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jamesbaldwin
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Posted: November 13 2022 at 12:13 |
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I see now! So my idea it's ok! That's great!
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Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.
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Posted: November 13 2022 at 13:34 |
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Just set up this account to share music so I hope this works. BUSKER - Lord Of The Rings (Listed on PA) a short one (2:59 Min) (Not Listed on PA) A Short One (4:18 min) Grand Funk - Inside Looking Out (Not Listed on PA) A Long One (12:53 min) Lee Michaels - Hold on to Freedom (Not Listed on PA) A Long One (10:55 min) Edited by JD - November 13 2022 at 14:57 |
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jamesbaldwin
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Posted: November 13 2022 at 14:24 |
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It works for me.
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Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.
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Posted: November 13 2022 at 15:35 |
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And,
Does this link work? |
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Posted: November 13 2022 at 15:36 |
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Works for me.
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Posted: November 13 2022 at 15:50 |
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Christian - Lewian
Cure - Open is a very good song, after a (too long - but we are in a concert) ecstatic beginning starts a cacophonic, mesmeric rock, where the sound is perfect, you can hear the voice well, you can hear the distorted guitar well, and the wall of sound of the rhythm section. Song the same from beginning to end, I would say almost monotonous, the composition here is not the strong point, but the sound (vocals and distorted guitar) and the atmosphere is. Psychedelic song in its way, but powerful, and this is the good thing, the Cure when they are powerful give their best. Candidate Asteroid - O Mamma! how ugly the singer is. Heavy metal or punk song? Song as bad as the singer, who with his guttural sounds wants to inspire a sinister atmosphere. I understand the genre, it has its musical reasons, but I'm not in this mood. Go! - After two very sustained rock songs Christian offers us a very synthetic and melodic stadium synth pop, a more pleasant song than the previous one but all in all not exciting. In conclusion, Christian provided one of my candidates for the long song. |
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Posted: November 13 2022 at 16:15 |
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@Kees
Limbo is a one-and-a-half minute jaunt that's very catchy live, nice keyboards and bass parts Patalo - French orchestral piece with march time music, not exciting start because it is too centred on the singing, which is a parody singing, whereas when the accordion comes in the song takes off, excellent instrumental piece, typically French atmosphere, great listening, candidate Long song - Here is an avant-garde piece (or contemporary classical music?) all on the cello, with distorted and perhaps electronically treated sounds (or perhaps not), in any case non-melodic music, dissonant, atonal at times... what can I say? It certainly wins the Grand Critics' Prize! I don't know to what extent I like it, on the whole (at times I like it a lot) but it is certainly original and interesting, it is music that I don't listen to easily, so excellent contribution In conclusion, Kees provided one of my nominees for the short song (for the long song I don't know) Edited by jamesbaldwin - November 13 2022 at 16:15 |
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Thanks for your interest.
 They're usually filed under post punk; acknowledged by good parts of the metal audience as far as I know but it is pretty clear that they don't belong there, and I also think the sound is not punk anymore. It's hard to pin down what exactly the difference is, but somewhat easier when you look at their whole catalogue; this is maybe their punkiest except the very early days. Yeah, I love some of my rock to be relentless and uncivilised. This is a major example and for sure not for everyone.Edited by Lewian - November 13 2022 at 16:38 |
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