Brit pop ?

Aren't Manic street preachers rock?
I've got friend who loves them.. Comparing them to MTV artists, they sure don't sound pop to me.

Most Britpop - Blur, Oasis and all those other half arsed lamebrains - was utter drivel. derivative song structures, vapid lyrics, unimaginative arrangements - you got the feeling that record companies were releasing demos rather than telling the bands to go away and finish their songs properly.

Pulp had pretty good lyrics and some surprisingly inventive music to back them up, not prog but there was quite a bit of substance there.

The Verve (if they were really Britpop) also had their moments - Urban Hymns is an excellent 90s rock album.

In my opinion brit pop started as a genre combining elements of punk/pop/rock and creating a new sound.The new brit pop is much better than the newer one.The second movement of brit pop is very interesting too.And i'm glad that you find Manic street preachers to be a great band..

My wife is a huge fan of it (as well as being an old friend of one of those big Britpop band's lead singers) ...

There are a few albums I've enjoyed over the years myself ...

Mansun's Attack Of The Grey Lantern,
both Kula Shaker albums,
Oasis' What's The Story Morning Glory,
Ocean Colour Scene's superb B-sides collections,
Suede's Dog Man Star,
Gomez's Bring It On and Liquid Skin,
Cosmic Rough Riders' Enjoy The Melodic Sunshine

for starters

We have almost the whole catalogue of Radiohead, Suede, Super Furry Animals and Gomez and a host of other bands (Blur, Dodgy, Elbow, Embrace, Cast, Lowgold, Pulp, Doves, Muse, Divine Comedy, Charlatans, Bluetones, Hothouse Flowers, Manic Street Preachers, Gaydad, Coldplay, Spritiualized, Travis and Verve)

So, yes even though it is kind of derivitive ... there's still a lot of good music to go around, although I'm not the expert  ...

Porcupine tree have some brit influences on their latest albums..Especially on stupid dream too....

I liked the Manics (are they still going?) - I think that 1997 was a fantastic year for guitar driven rock, as there were so many good bands, like the Seahorses, Manson, Garbage, Radiohead, the Eels etc - and even the "2nd Division" bands like Supergrass were very entertaining (sorry Blackie - I've seen them a few times, and was disappointed...).

I like Oasis' music, and I think that some of it probably is almost as classic as the Beatles - but not as much as the hype would have you believe, hence the widespread incredulity. Pulp were fantastic, and Divine Comedy are the great overlooked in my book. Another band whose 1st album really struck me was the Fun Lovin' Criminals - their later stuff was more of the same unfortunately, but I still spin the debut from time to time. Then there was Kula Shaker... Well, I liked them, even if they were derivative to the max!

None of it prog, of course - but I don't restrict my listening pleasures 

MikeEnRegalia wrote: ^ Do you know The Electric Soft Parade? Great stuff!

No - they passed me by - but thanks to your heads up I'll check them out!

Certif1ed wrote: I liked the Manics (are they still going?) - I think that 1997 was a fantastic year for guitar driven rock, as there were so many good bands, like the Seahorses, Manson, Garbage, Radiohead, the Eels etc - and even the "2nd Division" bands like Supergrass were very entertaining (sorry Blackie - I've seen them a few times, and was disappointed...). I like Oasis' music, and I think that some of it probably is almost as classic as the Beatles - but not as much as the hype would have you believe, hence the widespread incredulity. Pulp were fantastic, and Divine Comedy are the great overlooked in my book. Another band whose 1st album really struck me was the Fun Lovin' Criminals - their later stuff was more of the same unfortunately, but I still spin the debut from time to time. Then there was Kula Shaker... Well, I liked them, even if they were derivative to the max! None of it prog, of course - but I don't restrict my listening pleasures

Kula Shaker derivative? Well, I wont argue, but surely Oasis are worse, Cert?? They've even admitted they've tried to write songs that sound like the Beatles.

I've never understood the hype about Oasis. There's a few anthems in their catalogue (Roll with It, Cigarettes & Alcohol, Champagne Supernova etc) but they write mostly crap IMO.

I always felt that Pulp and Supergrass were the less derivative of the Brit pop bands.

i like oasis and coldplay.

and beatles

ive got all coldplay albums