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    Posted: October 23 2021 at 23:48
i dont just mean like bands that have saxes. i want bands that produce a similar kind of dark, depressing, and terrifying feeling with lines i can sing along with that are brutal and just so ruthless like "what is this dullest and bluntest of pains, such that my eyes never close without feeling it there!" i really appreciate the poignant, acute music with lyrics that i can relate to. and i really like mr hammill's style of singing, it compliments the whole feeling very well. yes i've already listened to all his solo work. 

so far, from what ive listened to only marrilion and kc are kind of similar to that kind of feeling. but as far as individual albums go, the lamb, crime of the century, and signals are also pretty good. 
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From the top of my head:

Peter Hammill really is one of a kind, but somewhat similar in it's dark, gloomy feel and intensity (the whole album I think)



drumsolo-warning! (but I like it). Great, legendary one off album:

Shockingly before Kansas became Kansas, they called themselves Proto-Kaw - and probably accidently sounded a little like VdGG. Maybe the lyrics are stupid, I wouldn't know as I rarely notice these things.





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Originally posted by The Red Comet The Red Comet wrote:

i dont just mean like bands that have saxes. 


Gnidrolog are the first band that comes to mind, but that's mainly because they have saxes. Wink
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Other than Gnidrolog, the other one to immediately come to mind is Island - Pictures



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^ It looks like H.R. Giger might have had a hand in designing Island's album cover. Wink
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^ It sure as heck wasn't cobbled together by H.R. Giger wannabe MacGiger



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Hi,

A band that had outstanding lyrics and was never really appreciated as much, would have been THE EDGAR BROUGHTON BAND ... and some of that material was very strong and I would even venture to say that it was quite educated, instead of just a street song. One might have argued that they looked like something other than that, but it was a very thoughtful and important band.

To see a "best of" (kinda) their Rockpalast DVD is very good and it kinda goes through a lot of their stuff, but the original albums, are even better in my book. For that matter, Edgar Broughton is working on a new album and one song has already been played on Space Pirate Radio, courtesy of Edgar himself.

Probably too "intelligent" of a band, to be considered "progressive" here, since folks only want a bunch of solos and some kinda of bombastic nothing. EBB was bombastic in its lyrics and attacks. They, probably gave "punk" a really bad name!
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

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Agree with this. Also Matthew Parmenter's solo albums are similar.
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How about YS from Il Balleto di Bronzo?
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

From the top of my head:

Peter Hammill really is one of a kind, but somewhat similar in it's dark, gloomy feel and intensity (the whole album I think)



drumsolo-warning! (but I like it). Great, legendary one off album:

Shockingly before Kansas became Kansas, they called themselves Proto-Kaw - and probably accidently sounded a little like VdGG. Maybe the lyrics are stupid, I wouldn't know as I rarely notice these things.






I did not know there were good recordings of Kansas prior to, well, Kansas, let alone some incredible completely different bands with Livgren. VDGG vibes is right, that was super cool, much darker than anything in Kansas' catalogue proper, and perfect for Halloween with that scream at the end!
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Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

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Agree with this. Also Matthew Parmenter's solo albums are similar.

Yes, I'd absolutely agree on both, and they're also excellent!!



Edited by Ronstein - October 25 2021 at 04:42
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Originally posted by Sacro_Porgo Sacro_Porgo wrote:


I did not know there were good recordings of Kansas prior to, well, Kansas, let alone some incredible completely different bands with Livgren. VDGG vibes is right, that was super cool, much darker than anything in Kansas' catalogue proper, and perfect for Halloween with that scream at the end!
Yes took me by surprise. Its really quite a strong collection of songs from start to finish too. Just listen to the epic Totus Nemesis
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The Swiss band Circus was often compared to VdGG, partly because of their unusual line-up (no electric guitars & KBs), but even the way they sing in the first album (which is sonically close to Gnidrolog's two  excellent albums as well) and on the sidelong epic Movin' On.




Charisma-label mates Audience was also compared to VdGG for the harsh vocals and the wild sax: try FFF or House on the Hil 




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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Progmind Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2021 at 06:58
the italians Men Of Lake sounds similar to VDGG, specially their first two albums
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The Red Comet Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2021 at 13:20
Do you know where I can find lyrics for discipline and matthew parmenter? i cant find anything online
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Ring Van Möbius is influenced by VDGG. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote richardh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2021 at 00:22
Hard one as VDGG are probably the most unique sounding prog band ever , due not only to Hammill ,but also the custom built organs and heavy use of sax. Going by the comments in the OP I would check out the Aphrodite's Child album 666. That is fearless stuff and only gained the band any recognition when the record company had the balls to release it about a year late. Unfortunately by that time the band had split although Mr Vangelis and Mr Rousos did okay for themselves in the end!
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Area 'Arbeit Macht Frei' and any of the Areknames albums from Italy. 

Of course, Anekdoten and Anglagard from Sweden

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