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verslibre ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 01 2004 Location: CA Status: Offline Points: 18450 |
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The 12 greatest prog drummers ever | Louder (loudersound.com)
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RadlyGnarly ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: February 03 2021 Location: SoCal Status: Offline Points: 3 |
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Easy list, great Peart quote though. All great prog bands need a great drummer.
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Online Points: 36956 |
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Nick Mason is an interesting choice:
Bill Bruford was an obvious choice. I tend to favour the jazzier ones, and people like Christian Vander, Pierre Moerlen, Mani Neumeier, Pierre van der Linden, Jaki Liebezeit, Chris Cutler... Edited by Logan - February 09 2021 at 13:01 |
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The Anders ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 02 2019 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 3535 |
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I personally think it can be a bit too much with 10-12 toms, 3-4 bass drums and 117 cymbals. Very often less is more - which is why Nick Mason is probably my favourite among these. He is no virtuoso, but his playing is perfect for the music, and an important element in the sound of the band. I admire Jaki Liebezeit too.
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Argo2112 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 20 2017 Location: New Jersey Status: Offline Points: 4462 |
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Nice list. It's good to see Gavin & Marco on there along with the usual suspects. (Neil, Phil, Bruford, Palmer...)
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Hrychu ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 03 2013 Location: poland? Status: Offline Points: 5641 |
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Nice list. But you know who is often overlooked? Jerzy Piotrowski of SBB.
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verslibre ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 01 2004 Location: CA Status: Offline Points: 18450 |
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Both guys named Pierre are awesome!
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I agree!
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Any list missing Moerlen, Cutler and Vander is invalid.
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Personally, I don't really feel it's right for Nick Mason to be on the list but not Alan White. However, Bruford is on there so I'll try not to complain too much.
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What about the guy from Arti e Mestieri? ![]() I would say Guy Evans and Phil Ehart also.
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Online Points: 36956 |
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One of my favourites that hardly ever gets mentioned is Giulio Capiozzo of Area. Franz Di Cioccio of PFM wasn’t too shabby either. I guess that they might discount many of my favourites as being jazz drummers playing in progressive rock bands. If they were more open to jazz-fusion, then someone like Billy Cobham of Mahavishnu Orchestra quite likely would be on the list. I do think that such greatest lists tend to be an exercise in futility. More interesting tends to be the justifications and methodology than the list itself, and one questions how great is the list users knowledge and expertise, and how do they even attempt to seem relatively unbiased and varied in the choices.
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Nod to missing drummers... |
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I guess the drummer must be bored with the music he is playing?
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Let me know when one of these list-makers discovers Tatsuya Yoshida.
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Online Points: 36956 |
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Tatsua Yoshida is great.
By the way, I guess being LouderSound, it favours louder bands. I just notice a lot of hard rock and metal types in the list and I suspect that the writer is not a big fan of the more Avant Prog ones. Not surprising to focus on the more mainstream ones when doing “greats” generally. Edited by Logan - February 09 2021 at 15:16 |
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Online Points: 36956 |
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If you want to argue that there are not a lot of hard rock and metal types in the list, then I'm ready to learn. I never said or implied those were (I didn't say all and I said hard rock and metal). I meant that it lists many "louder bands" with drummers who played in hard rock and metal bands, or made hard rock and metal music. I think they are going for drummers who play harder or flashier rather than the more subtle generally, but perhaps I'm wrong (Mason is not a flashy drummer). Of course I'm playing on the word louder for some humour (my humour rarely works), and that was what I most going for. A reason why one of my brothers doesn't like King Crimson is because he finds it too hard rock (of course it depends on the piece). I mentioned jazz, and Bruford does come from that jazz tradition as they note, but an album like King Crimson's Red is definitely on the hard rock side (King Crimson might well be called a "louder" band by many even if it isn't always). Interestingly, they choose a jazz performance from Bruford as the video to highlight him (so my earlier jazz drummer comment does not seem true based on my first look). Neil Peart, the number one, played hard rock, influenced metal drummers, and Rush influenced progressive metal. Mike Portnoy, progressive metal. Gavin Harrison, they reference In Absentia and I would call that hard alternative rock with metal qualities. Marco Minneman has a hard rock/ metal pedigree in bands he has worked with. Danny Carey of Tool, involved in metal. Pat Mastelotto has been pretty varied, but the video they post sounds metal influenced to me. Mike Mangini, involved in Prog Metal. They cover quite a few post-classic era ones, and there especially I do seem to see a hard rock or metal bias (heavy prog) in terms of the kinds of projects that the drummers have worked in. Frankly, I would have stuck with the classic era ones. For more soft Prog drummers playing really quiet music see softersound.com And here's some heavy duty Pink Floyd for you: Edited by Logan - February 09 2021 at 16:07 |
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A rather traditional list of prog drummers by LouderSound, hence why Portnoy and Mangini are listed. Super pleased to see Minnemann listed. As well Gavin is being noticed more and more, which is nice too...Gavin is so insanely musical its cra-cra.
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I'll go with the guy who drummed on Thick as a Brick, A Passion Play, Minstrel in the Gallery and Songs From the Woods.
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