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    Posted: March 08 2020 at 12:33

In the "How much time a day do you listen to music?" topic, something was mentioned that I think is worth exploring further in this topic: What is the proportion of time that is spent listening to music to add to your collection compared to the time that is spent listening to music that is already in your collection?

Consider the two extremes:

(1): If you spend 100% of the time listening to music listening to music to add to your collection, then why do you have a music collection?

(2): If you spend 100% of the time listening to music listening to music that is already in your collection, then how do you find music to add to your music collection? Do you add all the music to your collection without first listening to it?


I estimate that 95% or more of my music listening time is spent listening to music that is already in my collection. I suspect this is quite high compared to others here. That is because I have relatively little interest in adding more music to my collection, and prefer to allow music to somehow find me rather than actively looking for music.


 
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I think it's a little strange to assume that a collection becomes redundant if you don't listen to it much. People like collecting things and these tend to be very precious. I very rarely get rid of anything. 

I probably listen to more new music than old music. My favourite album Brain Salad Surgery gets an 'outing' maybe once or twice a year.  There is also a lot of old music that is still new to me. ie VDGG. I'm going to see them in less than a month but don't really have a handle on them. I tend to stick to Godbluff and Pawn Hearts too much.

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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

I think it's a little strange to assume that a collection becomes redundant if you don't listen to it much. People like collecting things and these tend to be very precious.
 
 
I suppose I'm am displaying my personal attitude towards collecting music: I don't collect music for its own sake, I collect music to listen to, even if only occasionally. Also, I usually only collect music that I like, I have little interest in collecting entire discographies.
 
 
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

There is also a lot of old music that is still new to me
 
The words "new" and "old" in the title were intended to be relative to the listener, not about how long ago the music was released. Although most of the music I acquire nowadays is from the 21st century, there is still music from older times that is new to me and I obtain (largely thanks to PA).
 
 
 


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I think I get the gist of this thread as there are many many collectors out there who own 5-6 copies of the same album...simply because...well ocd
These are the same people who buy the Final Cut even if they hate it...just because they need a full smorgasboard of Floyd...even the stuff they don’t like.

Personally I only buy music that I am very interested in...and yet with a library of something like 4-5000 albums it very quickly starts looking like a collection
Then again I never seem to tire of seeking out new music...in small bursts mind you. In between I dive back into the breach
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I find it very difficult to find time to listen to a lot of the music I already own (I have never counted my CDs but they must be in the thousands) That said, I do actively pursue new music (to me) and will often source stuff from You Tube channels like Prog Line that I feel warrants further investigation

So I guess the split is around 15/85 (New/Old)
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I've become lazy listening to new music, whenever I make the effort I find the music lacking in something that older, more 'classic' music has to offer. I don't know if it's just a nostalgia thing for me. Most 'modern' music I listen to, is actually not that modern at all and invariably not prog rock.
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It's roughly a 75/25 split with me. In other words, I spend 75% of the time listening to the 2,600+ CD albums that are already in my collection, and 20% of my time is spent listening to and rating and reviewing "new" albums on ProgArchives. If you wondered what happened to the remaining 5%, that's time spent listening to the 400+ albums on my Windows Media Player. Smile

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I spend a lot of my listening time on music for PA purposes. Most of that will never make it into my collection. But I do whatever I can to make sure I get some pleasure listening in from my existing collection. I would estimate, with the criteria that new is anything unheard and old is anything purchased into my collection, its probably an even split. If I wasn't evaluating for PA inclusion and forcing myself to listen to bands for the album of the year that I would otherwise avoid, it would probably be somewhere in the neighborhood of 90% existing music. That is of course going to fluctuate based on whether or not artists I previously enjoyed release new albums.

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60% new, 40% not new. New meaning music from the year 2000 on. There is so much timely music that is amazing. The classics are awesome but listening too much leads to burn out. I don't want that to happen. I must find music new to me, and the possibilities are endless.

Same with movies, books, restaurants... I need to try new things to keep life interesting.
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

60% new, 40% not new. New meaning music from the year 2000 on. There is so much timely music that is amazing. The classics are awesome but listening too much leads to burn out. I don't want that to happen. I must find music new to me, and the possibilities are endless.

Same with movies, books, vacations, restaurants... I need to try new things to keep life interesting.
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I go through periods of both collecting and exclusively listening. Really depends on the season and my mood. I always enjoy what I'm doing regarding music as a hobby, though!

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Originally posted by Tapfret Tapfret wrote:

I spend a lot of my listening time on music for PA purposes.
 
That's something I hadn't considered. I suppose that one could consider that listening to music for review purposes is not unlike listening to music to evaluate its worthiness for your own collection. I'm guessing that if an album you are reviewing for PA is excellent, then you would include it in your own collection. And ordinary folk such as myself do not necessarily include every album we listen to into our collections, so that even if the music we are listening to isn't being added to our collection, it still counts as time spent on listening to new music.
 
 
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Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

I suppose I'm am displaying my personal attitude towards collecting music: I don't collect music for its own sake, I collect music to listen to, even if only occasionally. Also, I usually only collect music that I like, I have little interest in collecting entire discographies.

Same. 
I have some CDs that I literally have not listened to in 10 or maybe even 20 years. That tells me a lot. Why do I still have them if I'm not going to listen to them? 
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I have about 4,500 songs on my mp3 winamp list, and will try to go random until I find a song that hits me. But, I go on sites like these to constantly expand. Sometimes I'll find a great band, and want more, so I'll check out their solo stuff.
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

I think it's a little strange to assume that a collection becomes redundant if you don't listen to it much. People like collecting things and these tend to be very precious.  
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So I have 2K CD's and STILL have over 1500 LP's ... and it's like I never heard them or know them, or don't remember any of them ... well, I have to put on The Battered Ornaments, as I only remember one song from it, but just about everything else I remember really well ... maybe Albert von Deyen needs another spin, as I can not remember and distinguish between any of the 3 albums any more!

But it has nothing to do with "new" or "old" music!

I feel like I've been told that I have to re-listen to Bach and Mozart again so it deserves to be in my collection ... which at this point they aren't ... as I could EASILY add 2K LP/CD's of more music!

I don't listen to "new" or "old" music ... and I don't look at Beethoven as "old music" just like I don't look at Miles as "old music" ... to me the EXPERIENCE of listening to music is ALWAYS new ... it always brings up the inner movie ... and it is glorious!

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90% old and 10% new because even the new stuff gets old (time wise) pretty quickly!

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Originally posted by Jeffro Jeffro wrote:

Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

I suppose I'm am displaying my personal attitude towards collecting music: I don't collect music for its own sake, I collect music to listen to, even if only occasionally. Also, I usually only collect music that I like, I have little interest in collecting entire discographies.

Same. 
I have some CDs that I literally have not listened to in 10 or maybe even 20 years. That tells me a lot. Why do I still have them if I'm not going to listen to them? 

In thinking about both of these posts, I do listen from time to time, to pretty much everything I've purchased that remains in my collection.  And the A List of these, fairly frequently.  My collection goes back to the 1960's, at least as far as how long I've been purchasing music, some of the music is quite ancient.  One of the reasons I buy music is because if I hear something I like enough, I want to support the artist.  There is no way of doing that (other than buying their other merchandise or going to see a live performance) so directly, other than spreading the word with others you know who may enjoy an artist's work and may also purchase it.  

I love my old music and I have also discovered a lot of new music worth listening to and artists worth supporting, in many genres over the years and this continues to be true.  There is always gold to be found if one is willing to dig deeply enough and sometimes over the years, you don't have to dig too far.


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I spend more and more time (a rather new development happened within the last year or so) with the music in my collection. To a point where I am at 99%.

First of all it has grown to a point where it is big enough. Secondly I find that new music is too "produced", with auto-tune and all the other "tools" making a lot of it "pale" and overfilled. 
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At this point in time, I would say it's roughly around 75% new and 25% old. I'm fortunate to have a job where I can listen to music on headphones while I work. I typically listen to about 4-5 albums a day. I don't have as much time on week days to listen at home, but I do have about 8 hours free on weekends at home. Everything I listen to at work is new in the hope that it might be something interesting to acquire. Weekends are for listening to old and sometimes the new after they arrive at my house.

This of course varies. When I'm working on my own music, the weekend will be devoted to that and the percentages could change to 100% new at work and nothing at home.
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I'm about 50/50. Half the time is spent seeking the thrill and excitement of enjoying something completely new, and half is spent relishing the comfort of something old and familiar.
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