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Grumpyprogfan
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Dylan, Lennon, Rush, Zappa, XTC and many others, have lyrics addressing their thoughts on religion and politics. There is a one star review on Amazon for the new Pat Metheny album. One 4 minute song from a 77 minute album has lyrics that voice an opinion of Trump. The reviewer gave it one star because they feel politics have no place in music. Personally, I would never rate an album one star that has one bad song but this reviewer is angry that Pat did this. There are quite a few comments and discussion on this topic from others. This is also one of the reviews that has the "most helpful votes" for this album so the reviewer is not alone with this opinion.
So, do you think artists should or should not write lyrics about these topics? This also applies to all the arts, movies, books, etc. |
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SteveG
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Politics yes. Religion no. So no vote.
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This is like asking should birds seek takeoff clearance?
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LAM-SGC
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Absolutely, the more people that sing about the dangers of religion, especially Islam, the better.
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Shadowyzard
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I don't care at all. All kinds of lyrics can exist, including the ones about religion and politics. I just prefer they wouldn't dominate the scene; as such lyrics do not that much interest me.
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Hi,
History in Europe has a lot of music and musicians doing material that was both political and religious, and I find the question a bit strange, because if this were the case, no one would listen to Roger Waters or Neal Morse! Or a lot of other folks claiming to ________________________ ... you get the idea! Now you know why I think that STRAWBS song about the nails is so important ... but some folks don't like it because of its side comment on Springsteen! ... it wasn't really about him, it was mostly about the girl believing that! And I think it hit a real hard note to many of us that we would like something so much that we took it to an extent that ... probably should not have happened?
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Artists can express anything they want. I personally don't care about lyrics for the most part. I love the music first and if the lyrics happen to be excellent then that's a bonus.
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Artists should write and sing about those topics that are personal to them and which they are passionate about. I'm not religious myself but I don't normally mind religious messages in songs. Songs with political messages with which I disagree are a very hard sell but not impossible for me to enjoy. For example, I like Rush's The Trees despite very strongly disapproving of the political viewpoint expressed in the lyrics.
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SteveG
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A song like Lay Down by the Strawbs, that's inspired by a bible psalm, is fine with me. It's only songs that are either overly critical of religion or sing it's praises that I find objectionable.
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Snicolette
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Having grown up in the era of protest songs, I think there is a place for artists to express their views on both of these issues, sometimes they are the only ones who will openly do this (and sometimes, to the near destruction of their careers). Like most things, if you don't like it, turn it off, don't buy it. Thinking of Strawbs, Steve, "The Hangman and the Papist," is one of my favourite Strawbs tunes, certainly very pointedly looking at how religion can divide, and I think, actually, in a constructive way, despite the sad ending. So, I'm voting, "Yes."
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I think music can be about any and all aspics of life including politics & religion.
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Music is art, so they can write about anything they want to so my vote is Don't Care. That does not imply that I like it or would buy it, especially the very implicit or severe statements. I would never buy an album by some black death metal stuff that can reek of satanism.
As well anything that is on purpose, pushing ideals on me. I don't have any issue with Rush's Jacobs Ladder, telling a story is fine. Neal Morse can at times get a bit preachy.....Overall I am fine with musicians, they can do whatever its art.
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Option #3. An artist should be free to sing anything what he or she wants. If I don't agree with the views expressed in a song, of if it hurts my oh so vulnerable Achilles heel, I can take it or leave it. There are other records or streams to choose from.
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I don't care, just the overall sound is important to me. I often mishear lyrics anyway and that never changes what I think is said, even when I discover the correct lyrics later on.
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Of course, but don’t bore us with sermons, insult our intelligence with platitudes, or embarrass us with sententious proclamations about the state of the world. Your audience is readers and thinkers, we don’t need a concept album to tell us that Bad Things Are Bad.
If on the other hand you can express something with wit or elegance or a surprising insight, even a touch of poetry, then you’re golden whatever the subject matter |
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How facund and fervid. |
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