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I love biographies, but I really love autobiographies, because its
(hopefully) coming from the source, even if they might leave out a few
details.
Or a book about Hollywood, or the movie-making process… I just bought one entitled, "Letters from Hollywood: Inside the Private World of Classic American Movemaking" I have Marlon Brando's autobiography "Songs My Mother Taught Me" and would highly recommend it. Highly recommend Conversations with Filmmakers Series en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversations_with_Filmmakers_Series I'll add more once I take a look… Please share any recommendations! |
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Hi,
Gosh ... you asked for it! Now you gonna make me open a box, just so I can find the books I need ... goodness ... I will lose a few pounds doing that! Godard on Godard ... His listing includes many films he wrote and some of those films are nutz! But incredible to see and appreciate since they are so different than anything else. Peter Brook ... The Empty Space/Experimental Theater/The Open Door/Tip of the Tongue ... and a few other books on various things he did. See the film "The Tightrope" ... for a better idea! Terry Gilliam ... Guilliamesque (too many piccies and cartoons but fun!/Gilliam on Gilliam/several books on the MP stuff Luis Bunuel ... My Last Sigh/Several Screenplays are also published. My Last Sigh is valuable for his sights of the Spanish Civil War and friends that were murdered. Give the picture "Guernica" a brand new meaning, and I think that he wanted to put that to a film, but wasn't able to picture it right! Ingmar Bergman ... Images, My Life in Film/Several screenplays are also published. Nicolas Roeg ... The world is Ever Changing/Fragile Geomatry/Nicolas Roeg (talks about many films) Orson Welles ... a few books, but the screenplays are better. Would love to see "Chimes at Midnight" published ... it continues to be hidden and savaged by the academic world! Krzysztof Kieslowski ... Kieslowski on Kieslowski/The films/Various screenplays published including the Colors trilogy. Alfred Hitchcock ... many books, although his work was never in my list of films to check ... I found his stuff not as well done as most European stuff. Francois Truffaut ... many books ... AND ... remember this ... both Godard, Truffaut and (Jacques) Rivette were film reviewers and did many reviews for a long time in their life ... and their attitude behind the camera is very different because of it, and is worth looking at. Rivette is a "painter" in that his films are slow and a painting is being formulated and this is "literal" in "La Belle Noiseusse" that everyone hated because it was 4 hours long and it gave you a full painting at the end! ... and the film kinda ends with ... it's not a photograph! That ought to gell you how these guys think! These are the only ones I have ... and I could easily tell you that I am missing 100 more books easily ... Kurosawa, Antonioni, Fellini, Forman, Lean, and a few others like Sven Nykvist ... and a few of the music makers for these folks, like Maurice Jarre, Ryuichi Sakamoto, Tangerine Dream, Georges Delerue, Bernard Herrmann, Nino Rota, and many others that made some films better than we think or give them credit for. These are the ones I have ... but I would like to get a few more were it not that I am retired and finances are tight! Kurosawa, Herzog would be immediate ones. One last MUST SEE thing ... look for a film called VISIONS OF LIGHT and it will give you a massive idea of what some directors and cinematographers are all about ... it's a must see film for all serious film students and folks that appreciate film and directors! From the acting side? ... Peter Brook specially, since he was one of the folks that helped English Theater explode in the 50's and 60's ... Marat/Sade is a must for everyone, and even the film is very good. But you really want to "hear it" (the dialogue), not see the play ... the words are so well used ... it's a massive piece of work and what I think is one of the most important plays of the century.
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Hi,
Your link is GREAT ... I'll be looking for more books from it! Here we go: Pedro Almodovar ... for my tastes a second rate Bunuel, although some of his films differ entirely. The darling of the Portland Film Festival for many years ... I like his earlier material better. Robert Altman ... I think he was not as good as he could be and should have tried to make films in Europe ... but that money ... ohhh that money ... and that star ... !!! Jane Campion ... just the "feminism" alone is worth the conversation ... but she has some massive films. Atom Egoyan ... interesting, although I find his work uneven in its approach. Federico Fellini ... did not list him on my list ... most of what I had were several of his screenplays that were published. Peter Greenaway ... deserves to be mentioned, but I think a lot of people really dislike his reckless attitude towards nudity. But some really far out stuff, and someone, one day, will have a good explanation for the PIP in The Pillow Book, one of the most astonishing and crazy images ever ... I consider it the characters inner brain at that moment! Stanley Kubrick ... like/dislike/love ... I stop at Dr. Strangelove! But that film works because of Peter Sellers, not Stanley Kubrick! Mike Leigh ... better known for turning on the camera and let his actors die without dialogue in his early days! Sam Peckinpah ... enough said ... after The Wild Bunch, he was done! Roman Polanski ... situation impossible and the discussion about his films will probably go away until after he passes. he is the "owner" of one of the most memorable camera shots EVER DONE (actually 2 of them ... Tess has the other one) ... and you have to see VISIONS OF LIGHT to find out what it was! Carlos Saura ... all dance ... all dance ... literally and his version of CARMEN is magnificent! Lars Von Trier ... if the damn films weren't so expensive to watch at Amazon and other places ... gave up trying to see/find anything! Zhang Yimou ... not sure about books, but he helped open up the Chinese Film industry and some of the folks that worked for him became directors as well ... he would be an important one to work on. |
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Hi, and thanks for these
wonderful replies. I'll do this in two parts (one for each reply)... If I
veer off-topic, its only because I've enjoyed talking movies with you
the past couple of years.... I'm aware of the cahiers du cinema, but
haven't read many of their reviews. I think I spend more time finding
things to read "later", and having them saved under a word document or
an internet bookmark. There are some directors whose movies I might not
love, but who I'd love to read or see in an interview, and Godard is
one. I've seen about 10 of his movies, none of them that I loved, but a
handful I liked. To me, Bresson is the master of French cinema. I've
seen a few of Truffaut (400 Blows is my favorite out of the three
directors you've mentioned), and I saw Rivette's first movie (Paris
Belongs To Us, which I liked). Before I forget,
you might like Ray Carney, who really knows Independent movies. I've
talked to him via e-mail, and usually responds. We share some comedy
favorites, and I do know he's been involved in a lawsuit with Rappaport
(he said, she said) - http://people.bu.edu/rcarney/aboutrc/bio.shtml Funny
about Bunuel, I like his non-surrealistic stuff (Los Olvidados,
Viridiana), and I used to be a BIG fan of surrealism as a teenager, but
fell out of love pretty quickly. I think I bought a Bergman (Interview
Series) last night.. I received a credit card, and got impatient and
maxed it out buying books online. I'm going to save your recommendations
in case I ever get another one (lol).. I love that series because they
consist of mainly interviews, as opposed to 2nd hand news, which is only
great as an alternative. Orson Welles is
an example of a man who is more interesting to his movie... I still have
yet to see the Three Colours Trilogy (despite having it).. I've been on
a movie slump despite having a lot of free time, so I think buying the
books might help me (although today, I started reading the 2nd
autobiography of Jimmy Hoffa - who has been portrayed awfully in the
movies, especially the last piece of sh*t I won't mention). Hitchcock
to me was a guy to watch during one of my slumps. Great editing, pretty
mainstream stuff, and I've seen at least a dozen of his movies, but
I've avoided "North By Northwest" simply because I don't want to watch a
movie with Cary Grant. He's almost TOO smooth for the movies. And this
was before turning off the movie he's in by Capra (one of my favorite
directors)... Slapstick/Screwball isn't my thing (my username might
indicated). In fact, I can't find funny movies, and I've seen thousands!
I've seen funny moments, but they are never comedies (maybe except a
few black comedies like "Buffalo '66", and "Cuckoo's Nest"). What
a coincidence -- I'm about to mention Roeg, and David Bowie came on my
4,000 song playlist, but I didn't like "The Man Who Fell To Earth"
(seems as if everyone else liked it, though). I haven't seen any movies
of Peter Brook, but I wonder if Artaud's theatrical confrontation plays
well in the movies as opposed to the stage. Speaking
of Kurosawa, here is a list of his 100 Favorite Movies
(chronological).. The website is great for movies/art/etc ---
http://www.openculture.com/2015/01/akira-kurosawas-list-of-his-100-favorite-movies.html I
do have the Fellini (Interview Series).. I'm only half-way finished,
but I'd recommend it. And he's only my 3rd favorite Italian director
(after Visconti, and my favorite ever - De Sica, who unfortunately
doesn't speak English well, so not a lot of stuff intervista wise).. I know ALL about finance troubles.. I'd be more than happy to give you what I have. Just send me a PM. Now onto the 2nd reply :)
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FYI - always COPY/PASTE before sending a message (in case of the error msg).. I
actually bought Robert Altman's Interview Series from CityLights
Bookstore (and read Huston's while I was there on my 2nd trip, every
morning for almost 2 weeks!).. I think he made two masterpieces -
Nashville and McCabe and Mrs. Miller.. I like a few more "The Long
Goodbye", and I think "Secret Honor" was fascinating not only because it
was about Nixon, but because it was truly a 1-character movie... He
made a TON of movies, and many of them are duds, but I think to myself I
can watch the couple of his I haven't seen yet in the future when I
can't think of anything to watch (which sounds close!). "An Angel At My Table" is probably the only movie I've seen of Campion's. I need to do a better job of listing/rating on IMDB. I
will try and see "Visions of Light" as it is on YouTube... If you have
ANY video documentaries you like, please reply! I feel a little
apprehensive about starting a similar thread so fast, especially on a
music forum. Like Saura (La Caza), my favorite
of Polanski is his first movie - "Knife in the Water" - wonderful
tension, but "Chinatown" is great.. I might re-watch his existential
movie from 1976, but the best "existential" movie that year I think was
"Mr. Klein" w/ Alain Delon. I looked at my
bookshelves and saw more of the same. A ton of Brando, books I already
mentioned, and a few I probably bought at a library giveaway sale.
There's one Kubrick book I also have (but haven't read).. I loved "A
Clockwork Orange", "Paths of Glory", "Barry Lyndon", "The Killing".. His
others are decent, too. None of his movies have "heart", which is ok..
An interesting guy, and a few good documentaries. Mike Leigh (and Ken
Loach) are some of my favorite directors, lots of great stuff between
them. I would say Peckinpah was done after "Straw Dogs", which I liked
much better the 2nd time. I've seen "The Wild Bunch" at least three
times, and will probably always remain a 7/10 movie, even though I like
many of the actors, especially Holden (Ben Johnson has always been a
great supporting actor). It seemed a little like "The Professionals",
which I love (Richard Brooks is very underrated, and so is Hal Ashby).
It even has Robert Ryan and a great cast. I like it especially because
its a Western and philosophical, without being "heavy".. I have seen a
few of Von Trier, but outside of "Breaking the Waves", which I thought
was decent, none of them really got to me. For
some odd reason, I haven't seen too many Chinese movies, and I can't
think of one from the 1930-70s. I love going country-by-country and
compare the same decades. Besides the dominated Americas/Europe/Asia,
there are some very good Egyptian movies.. "Chit-chat on the Nile"
(Adrift on the Nile), Cairo Station, Cairo 30, but would like to find
more from that era from all over the world.. Again, I have so many on
the watchlist (1,300 just on IMDB's), but I haven't seen a great movie
since watching "La Terrazza" about 2 months ago, which really did a
great job criticizing the upcoming 80s/modern life. You
should try checking out YouTube (and similar sites) every so often.
Many times a movie will be uploaded, but then taken down after a few
days/weeks.. I was lucky to see the 11-hour Peckinpah "Man of Iron"
(complete interviews). One of the interviews is still up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd9f_J2lgVo
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I'm not finished, but "Bloody Sam: The Life and Films of Sam Peckinpah" is one I'd recommend. I like some of his movies, but always found him to be more interesting that his films.
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Jack's Life - A Biography of Jack Nicholson by Patrick McGilligan
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It won't be any fun if it did not include all the salacious porn in his life!
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"Le Cinéma selon Alfred Hitchcock" by François Truffaut (English title
"Hitchcock/Truffaut"). it is based on a 1962 exchange between Hitchcock
and Truffaut, in which
the two directors spent a week in a room at Universal Studios talking
about movies
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Hi, Nice ... had totally forgot about this ... and will see if I can find an English copy ... even if Alfred Hitchcock is not one of my favorite film makers, and Truffaut, Godard or Rivette would be able to dance around him and his "knowledge" of film ... but he was very creative with his shots and way of showing them and in several cases used the music extremely well, one of the worst things in American films! They never wanted to admit that cartoons were the teachers on how to use music!
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I don't read books about music, films, bands, singers,actors, or directors. I don't have time for that. I watch lots of films and listen to loads of albums instead. And because I like watching films and listening to albums, I also don't watch the crap that is in TV.
I derive no pleasure from reading about things that give me pleasure from watching and listening. Edited by LAM-SGC - March 08 2020 at 16:38 |
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You really want to read a small book, that is a lot of fun ... "THE CARTOON MUSIC BOOK" ... it is likely one of the best things and a couple of things you're gonna say ... he did that? he was where? ... and a few more comments ... it is a veritable lesson on music and how it is used ... and the funny thing is that it was the European directors that worked the music better, than Hollywood, who tried to color a pink scrim with a cool shot of a face singing ... and make sure their "stars" sold records so black music could not be sold or distributed! (Tom Dowd special!!!!) Europe had a much longer and wider music history and many films NEVER forgot that. America made sure that any "culture" that was here got wiped out completely ... and it's not even on history books in schools!
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I've read loads of books about music in the past. I studied music, culture and art at college. I am talking about how I am now in the present. :) |
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Hi, IF YOU DARE ... your opinion on THE CARTOON MUSIC BOOK ... will change your mind about a lot of things about music. It is a masterpiece of a little book! Sad that someone that has studied so much music, culture and art, is not considering another "form" that was far more clear about its use and stories, than 99% of all the music out there, specially popular music that relies on "lyrics" to tell you what you are supposed to know and believe! Really sad ... totally sad ... and your comment is sad for me! It's about the "art" of it all ... not about injecting you crap that supposedly makes you knowledgeable about something so they can throw you out a few years later with a piece of paper and STILL can not get you a decent paying job! Been there, done that, got cheated ... what else is new? On top of it by folks that could not possibly make it in the field of arts because they had no talent whatsoever!
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Whatever. You come across sometimes as a bit of a know-it-all.
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I wonder why he replied to everyone's replies except mine.
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Hi, Doesn't matter to me, really. What some folks don't like is that I am saying something that might ... MIGHT ... help their point of view, but some folks think that their point of view is the end all be all ... I don't ... my point of view is mine and is based on my experience and inner life as an interpreter of psychic and valuable experiences in the inner self ... and I have played with many of these on actors and other folks involved in the arts, and I know ... more or less ... some things that work or don't work. I have no issues with his "music theory" ... but what he is saying is that music theory does not exist in CARTOONS, or MILES DAVIS ... because it is bizarre and impossible to describe and interpret on a level and words that we can define and explain. I don't make those suggestions because I think others are stupid ... I make those suggestions because those are the films, theater, books and music that has helped me and brought me to what I am today, capable of describing some of these inner experiences and use them within an "artistic" design/process and in doing so I discovered that I have helped several folks do this as well ... This is not one of those pee-shooting contests ... I honestly and with a lot of love and care appreciate hundreds of films for what they have and have shown, and in all my reviews I have SPECIALLY detailed cinematography, music, acting and directing as the 4 details I see best ... and I always try to explain what I saw in them ... and this guy saying that he will never even look at it, is like saying he is not interested in half the music in the 20th century that had no melody, or design that you and i can define ... it's almost like it was random! CARTOON, specially the stuff that became T&J and the WB cartoons, set a standard for music, that was incredible and the book even goes as far as Peanuts and B&B. And, honestly, that kind of music is the very toughest to define and put together, because you either match the frame (often 24 per second) or the director changes the shooting to match a small detail in music ... WB did both, which accounts for a lot of their great work ... but others simply allowed the music to fly (Peanuts) ... and anyone calling these crap is simply not aware of what this is all about! Sorry to sound cross on this, but respecting the REAL ARTISTS in film, regardless of what kind it is, is an absolute must ... and I know that this guy would not be able to listen to 5 minutes of the Carl Stalling CD's of some of the cartoon music ... they are amazingly insane, and guess what ... the visual you create is as good if not better than the original cartoon it was a part of ... many of which you probably won't even remember!
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I don't think you understood or comprehended.. You replied to my OP.. I replied with 2 long posts, and you ignored them.
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Hi, Weird ... I've replied to you more than anyone else! And I started off your comments!
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Hi, I haven't had a TV for 12 years and I don't miss it! How strange that you can not notice someone that does the same thing as you do!  Reading something has lost its value because people don't read anymore. They go to Wiki instead and then try to write a paper to get a B in college! That's not to say that there is NOTHING in reading anything that is valuable, and this is only an issue in the eyes of each and every person. I have to tell you that in our house that had 40K books of literature (now in Lisbon - Jorge de Sena exhibition), and that all of those books are just toilet paper for a lot of bums around the world ... Another example: There are a lot of great poets out there ... but if you have heard some of them directly, on CD or LP or by accident, you know how they can shine ... reading a Pablo Neruda, or someone else is not to say that their poetry sux and is the stink because you can not feel it alive, and you did not see it therefore the words in a book are the merdes of the world! Methinks your idea is a bit harsh on yourself, and depriving yourself of experiences that are out there and live ... how to do you think they can last hundreds of years? .... ohhh wait ... osmosis!
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