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jamesbaldwin ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 25 2015 Location: Milano Status: Offline Points: 6052 |
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Choose the king of the Grunge.
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Icarium ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: March 21 2008 Location: Tigerstaden Status: Offline Points: 34086 |
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Soundgarden
More diverse, bigger roots in doom metal and had a defined philosophy from the getgo. The influences flew wild and the sum became a garden of sound. Without Soundgarden, Chris Cornell, Temple of the Dog, Pearl Jam would not have been. |
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Soundgarden - Superunknown is a classic.
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Jeffro ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 29 2014 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 2201 |
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These days it's Soundgarden. I liked early PJ but pretty quickly lost interest.
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jamesbaldwin ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 25 2015 Location: Milano Status: Offline Points: 6052 |
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Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.
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Saperlipopette! ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 20 2010 Location: Tomorrowland Status: Offline Points: 12507 |
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Badmotorfinger still sound pretty great so Soundgarden
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Catcher10 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: December 23 2009 Location: Emerald City Status: Offline Points: 17980 |
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Dbl edged sword on your question.......I think the king of Grunge is Pearl Jam which trumps who I prefer.
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Argo2112 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 20 2017 Location: New Jersey Status: Offline Points: 4462 |
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Probably Pearl jam , but not by much.However, I do like Chris Cornall's voice better. He was a great singer.
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verslibre ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 01 2004 Location: CA Status: Offline Points: 18692 |
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Pearl Jam couldn't dust Soundgarden's road cases!* Soundgarden went from strength to strength. Chris also did some great solo music and I like all three of Audioslave's albums, too. (*Except for Matt Cameron, who ended up drumming for Soundgarden and PJ simultaneously.)
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Morningrise ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 18 2009 Location: Buenos Aires Status: Offline Points: 2766 |
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Soundgarden by miles.
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Fischman ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 21 2018 Location: Colorado, USA Status: Offline Points: 1636 |
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Soundgarden was the only truly great band to come from that whole grunge scene.Easy vote.
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Icarium ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: March 21 2008 Location: Tigerstaden Status: Offline Points: 34086 |
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i reccomend everyone to listen to Skin Yard, a band that more than any grunge act, merged prog with grunge, like Zappa meats grunge, heavy and unpredictable.
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Finnforest ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 03 2007 Location: The Heartland Status: Offline Points: 17335 |
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I think in retrospect, 90s grunge was pretty unremarkable and boring, especially since a similar music had been done before, and better, by bands like Television, Minutemen, Mission of Burma, and others. It seems that the only thing added ten years later was hype. Those earlier bands deserved the attention that stuff like Nirvana and Pearl Jam got, but they simply lacked being in "the right place at the right time." Queue up Zappa talking about marketing. One band from the grunge era that holds up for me is that brief era when the Pumpkins were throwing a lot of colorful creativity on top of the bleakness. Gish through Mellon Collie were special.
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...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"
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TCat ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 07 2010 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 11612 |
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This is tougher than I thought, but in the end I have to go with Soundgarden. Cornell was an amazing singer, but so is Vedder. I think I like the rougher edge of Soundgarden in songs like "Birth Ritual" and "Superunknown" and the occasional psychedelic feel in songs like "Head Down".
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Icarium ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: March 21 2008 Location: Tigerstaden Status: Offline Points: 34086 |
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Soundgarden started out as a post-punk band, early thei have show influence of Bauhaus and Killing Joke.
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Old thread, but I have to go with Soundgarden. PJ are great, but I really love the more experimental and psychedelic elements that SG play with, not to mention the Alice in Chains-esque doom metal parts. Plus, without SG's influence in the 80s, so many great 90s bands probably wouldn't have existed in the first place
However, if we were to include EVERY Big 4 band, my vote would go to Alice in Chains
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Lewian ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2015 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 15186 |
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The kings of grunge are Nirvana, but I vote Pearl Jam here. Soundgarden never did much for me.
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Hugh Manatee ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 07 2021 Location: The Barricades Status: Offline Points: 1587 |
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I have pretty much the full catalogue from both these bands but it is Pearl Jam that I return to most often and they are still releasing quality stuff. Their last(?) album "Gigatron" is well worth the listen; and "Black" is still one of the best grunge songs ever released: Edited by Hugh Manatee - July 26 2022 at 20:32 |
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nick_h_nz ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Prog Metal / Heavy Prog Team Joined: March 01 2013 Location: Suffolk, UK Status: Offline Points: 6737 |
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It’s a very tricky question, as the two are very different bands with very little in common musically. I love both bands, and I’m not sure I think either is better than the other overall. If I go purely by the studio albums, Soundgarden possibly has the edge, but when it comes to live, Pearl Jam walks all over them.
When PJ began releasing their “bootlegs” from the Binaural tour (and pretty much ever since), I almost ceased playing their studio albums. PJ live is so much better than their albums. Furthermore, PJ after Matt Cameron joined sometimes almost seems like a different band. The albums from Binaural onwards are almost all superb, and really show the different group dynamic that exists from that point. In terms of vocals, Soundgarden will always trump PJ for me, because as much as I like Eddie’s vocals, they are nothing (NOTHING!) on Chris’s. Actually, my favourite vocalist in PJ is Stone, and I also very much like his solo offerings. My favourite band from this time and place, though, is Alice in Chains. And rounding up my big four would be, not Nirvana, but Screaming Trees.
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