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Frenetic Zetetic 
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 Topic: Is Dark Side of The Moon Overrated?
Posted: March 18 2018 at 02:23 |
The recent Foxtrot thread brought this to mind last evening.
This is one album (DSoTM) that just never, ever clicked with me - even before I delved seriously into prog. I'd heard songs like Money etc on the radio and thought they were good songs, but compared to what the rest of Pink Floyd has to offer, this album almost feels like a commercial (maybe literally?) break. Animals and WYWH are my two favorites, so maybe that says something.
The songwriting seems to be intentionally written in a diluted way. It feels incomplete, even on repeated listens. I feel like I'm dealing with the Wal Mart special of PF albums.
This is not a troll attempt to get nuclear heat; I want genuine opinions and analysis. None of this "Lol you have cloth ears I know 320402342 reasons why you're wrong", and then people don't back up their words/disappear  .
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Posted: March 18 2018 at 02:27 |
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Of course it's overrated.
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Posted: March 18 2018 at 02:32 |
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The one redeeming factor for me is that it at least segues people into more progressive music, that might otherwise have not shifted that way. Entry level progressive rock IMHO. It's impossible for me to see this album as anything other than what mall kids ages 15-19 think they should be showing people they listen to.
Edited by Frenetic Zetetic - March 18 2018 at 02:32
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Cristi
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Posted: March 18 2018 at 02:35 |
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No
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Frenetic Zetetic
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Posted: March 18 2018 at 02:36 |
 Cristi wrote:
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WHY?
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Posted: March 18 2018 at 02:38 |
Frenetic Zetetic wrote:
The one redeeming factor for me is that it at least segues people into more progressive music, that might otherwise have not shifted that way. Entry level progressive rock IMHO. It's impossible for me to see this album as anything other than what mall kids ages 15-19 think they should be showing people they listen to.
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Mmyyyeaaah but so did WYWH and especially The Wall, in many ways both better albums. I do give them credit for making that sh*t up practically from whole cloth.
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Frenetic Zetetic
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Posted: March 18 2018 at 02:41 |
Atavachron wrote:
Frenetic Zetetic wrote:
The one redeeming factor for me is that it at least segues people into more progressive music, that might otherwise have not shifted that way. Entry level progressive rock IMHO. It's impossible for me to see this album as anything other than what mall kids ages 15-19 think they should be showing people they listen to.
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Mmyyyeaaah but so did WYWH and especially The Wall, in many ways both better albums. I do give them credit for making that sh*t up practically from whole cloth.
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The Wall is another one that fell short for me personally.
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Posted: March 18 2018 at 02:44 |
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You can't fall short with The Wall. But yeah I run hot & cold with it, a lot of show there. Good theater though, like Oliver on a bad trip.
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Frenetic Zetetic
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Posted: March 18 2018 at 02:47 |
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I'm willing to re-listen to it several more times with an honest ear.
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Posted: March 18 2018 at 02:51 |
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It's great but I have to say yeah
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Frenetic Zetetic
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Posted: March 18 2018 at 02:54 |
I should have made this a poll  .
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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: March 18 2018 at 03:00 |
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Lol
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Posted: March 18 2018 at 03:04 |
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No. I just put my agreements about why DSoTM is very great and important album into that Foxtrot-thread so I donīt repeat myself. I think if some Floyd album is overrated, it is WYWH. Really nothing new after DSoTM. Anyway I like it too, also I think it was their therapy-album, after done that they could make Animals much greater. Also really love, how music, lyrics & cover in it are all the same, great entity. Have to say what my experience here has been, the Wall is underrated. Although Tommy & Lamb are greater, really think Rog succeeded to make very great entity of it, also really love the movie. Itīs a great story, also lot of great music in it.
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Posted: March 18 2018 at 03:13 |
Hereīs my comment from the foxtrot-thread (second time trying):
No. DSoTM has never been overrated, although it hasnīt been a long time my favourite Floyd-album. Hell, it just took so much forward recording technology, also I think itīs one of the predecessors of ambient and electromusic. Can you say any album that is like that what itīs made before it?
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Posted: March 18 2018 at 03:14 |
^And I answered with:
Interesting perspective, and one I hold almost a diametrical opinion of. Prog or not, I prefer Invisible Touch to We Can't Dance.
I don't care for DSoTM due to the tech advances. They are there, no denying. It's the songs themselves that don't gel with me.
Recording tech is irrelevant to the the songwriting, and vice versa for me.
Edited by Frenetic Zetetic - March 18 2018 at 03:15
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Cristi
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Posted: March 18 2018 at 03:18 |
Frenetic Zetetic wrote:
Cristi wrote:
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I think it deserves all the appreciation and praise it gets. It's very well put together both lyrically and musically. It's got a great flow. It blew my mind when I first listened to it when I was a high school kid, long long time ago and I still have fun listening to it today.
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Posted: March 18 2018 at 03:24 |
Put this here too: Also, about songs, I think Breathe, Time, Money, Us & Them, Brain Damage and even Eclipse are much better songs than the most in WYWH, only Welcome to Machine rises into same quality as those DSoTM-songs. Just my opinion.
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Posted: March 18 2018 at 03:25 |
And this: Like a lot also a Great Gig In the Sky. Also, if you need another perspective to DSoTM, I really recommend the early live recording of it, there are totally different versions of On the Run and Great Gig.
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Hercules
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Posted: March 18 2018 at 03:26 |
No, it's not. It's not that all the songs are great, though Time, Breathe and several others are.
It's the way it flows, the concept behind it and the whole listening experience that makes it a truly great album. Is it the best prog album ever? Of course not, at least not in terms of the music. But it's also accessible to non-prog fans, which is why everyone I know has at least one copy, and it's introduced a lot of people to other prog bands.
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Posted: March 18 2018 at 03:32 |
Mortte wrote:
Put this here too:Also, about songs, I think Breathe, Time, Money, Us & Them, Brain Damage and even Eclipse are much better songs than the most in WYWH, only Welcome to Machine rises into same quality as those DSoTM-songs. Just my opinion. |
Agreed. (I put a longer, more detailed reply but that F*****G Captcha refused to post it.
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