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bobthesalesman 
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 Topic: I need criticism from true prog fans
Posted: August 29 2005 at 03:49 |
www.myspace.com/thepianowar
We just put up a new song btw - Sept. 6th 
My band...yes we are TRYING(key word)to do prog. So far we have 4 songs written(all exceeding 10 minutes in length...although that wasnt supposed to happen  ). Im not meaning for this to be Spam but this is the best place i can get real criticism on the music we are writing.
p.s. Keep in mind that these demos are about 2 months old. The songs have been changed around a little, tightened up, the Vocals have been mastered, and some lyrics have been changed around. We plan on releasing a full length album sometime in December(yes a concept album  ). It will be about 4-6 tracks long containing a good hours worth of music.
The newer stuff we are working on is coming out kind of like an orgy of Mogwai, Led Zeppelin, and Genesis. We are also working on a more Jazz influenced song.
Please be honest...if you dislike it tell me why.
And i know the vocals on the demo are sh*t. The dude only heard the song like twice and it was recorded one take. Trust me this guy CAN sing...just not on these demos
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Posted: August 29 2005 at 08:37 |
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I listened to the "new demo" track. Thought it sounded ALOT like Mars Volta.
But I am a big fan of them, so I liked it. Never really heard anybody else that
had a sound that reminded me of Mars Volta like that.
If you get the songs recorded with good production, then I think you can
make a cool album :-)
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Spanky
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Posted: August 29 2005 at 08:41 |
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The New Demo Song sounds just like something the MArs Volta would put out. That's all I'm going to say.
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Coalinga knows how to party.
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Biggles
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Posted: August 29 2005 at 09:52 |
Yeah, it does sound a lot like The Mars Volta. Too much, I would say. Try toning down the TMV and add some originality in there.
I liked the guitarist's use of the volume pedal, though. And the overall instrumentation is pretty good. The drummer's got some talent.
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The crux of the biscuit is the apostrophe.
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Logos
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Posted: August 29 2005 at 10:48 |
I quite liked the new demo track! 
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bobthesalesman
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Posted: August 29 2005 at 15:15 |
 Biggles wrote:
Yeah, it does sound a lot like The Mars Volta. Too much, I would say. Try toning down the TMV and add some originality in there.
I liked the guitarist's use of the volume pedal, though. And the overall instrumentation is pretty good. The drummer's got some talent.
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I am the drummer
BTW we have been getting the whole TMV thing alot so our next few songs have been trying to break away from that. We arent trying to make it sound like The Volta...its just how we are writing music.
I personally think its to Post Rock to sound like The Volta. Most of our inspiration comes from a mix of Mogwai, Explosions in the Sky, Yes, The Volta, and Tool. Our Singer isnt even really into TMV.
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bobthesalesman
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Posted: August 29 2005 at 15:16 |
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Also our album is coming out this December or January.
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bobthesalesman
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Posted: August 29 2005 at 21:39 |
Anyone else?
We have gotten alot of praise from alot of people. But i want some criticism from prog fans...not scene kids.
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con safo
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Posted: August 29 2005 at 21:51 |
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Good schtuff. But yea it does sound ALOT like TMV.
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bobthesalesman
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Posted: August 29 2005 at 21:53 |
con safo wrote:
Good schtuff. But yea it does sound ALOT like TMV. |
So does your name 
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con safo
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Posted: August 29 2005 at 22:11 |
bobthesalesman wrote:
con safo wrote:
Good schtuff. But yea it does sound ALOT like TMV. |
So does your name |
hehe
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yesman72
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Posted: August 29 2005 at 23:00 |
Dude I think its got a lot of potential. I'm not sure if it sounds like MTV or Mars Volta cause I rarely watch MTV or listen to Mars Volta. My only complaint is that the singer sounds identical to a singer from an EMO band my brother likes. I'm not sure of the bands name but its so close that I'm inclined to believe that it is intentional. Of course I'm probably wrong, I was just compelled to say that because of how close it is. The music was very interesting but I feel like you guys need some keyboards. Good stuff, dive deep into your favorite classic prog albums, don't rip them off but just try to pinpoint the things that make them special and try to relate it to this era. I think that might help a lot. Well that's all i got to say. Congratulations and good luck!!!!!!!! 
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Logos
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Posted: August 30 2005 at 09:21 |
yesman72 wrote:
Dude I think its got a lot of potential. I'm not sure if it sounds like MTV or Mars Volta cause I rarely watch MTV or listen to Mars Volta. |
I don't think anyone mentioned MTV yet.
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bobthesalesman
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Posted: August 30 2005 at 12:04 |
Logos wrote:
yesman72 wrote:
Dude I think its got a lot of potential. I'm not sure if it sounds like MTV or Mars Volta cause I rarely watch MTV or listen to Mars Volta. |
I don't think anyone mentioned MTV yet.
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I hope not
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bobthesalesman
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Posted: August 30 2005 at 12:04 |
yesman72 wrote:
Dude I think its got a lot of potential. I'm not sure if it sounds like MTV or Mars Volta cause I rarely watch MTV or listen to Mars Volta. My only complaint is that the singer sounds identical to a singer from an EMO band my brother likes. I'm not sure of the bands name but its so close that I'm inclined to believe that it is intentional. Of course I'm probably wrong, I was just compelled to say that because of how close it is. The music was very interesting but I feel like you guys need some keyboards. Good stuff, dive deep into your favorite classic prog albums, don't rip them off but just try to pinpoint the things that make them special and try to relate it to this era. I think that might help a lot. Well that's all i got to say. Congratulations and good luck!!!!!!!!
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Oh god...well our singers fired (j/k).
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yesman72
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Posted: August 30 2005 at 23:31 |
Lmao. Yeah you're right nobody did. I seriously need to wear my glasses
No all your singers gotta do is either keep doing what he's doing ( I could be wrong, he may naturally sound that way.) or if he is emulating that guy ( I think the band is Armor for Sleep) then he needs to find his own sound or voice literally. Good Luck Again!!!!!!!
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bobthesalesman
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Posted: August 31 2005 at 03:41 |
yesman72 wrote:
Lmao. Yeah you're right nobody did. I seriously need to wear my glasses
No all your singers gotta do is either keep doing what he's doing ( I could be wrong, he may naturally sound that way.) or if he is emulating that guy ( I think the band is Armor for Sleep) then he needs to find his own sound or voice literally. Good Luck Again!!!!!!!
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Our singer=amazing
Listening to Old Demo w/ Lyrics on our myspace. It shows his vocal talent more.
He recorded the new demo after hearing it twice and couldnt find his pitch...i have videos of him doing it live and his voice is amazing.
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yesman72
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Posted: September 01 2005 at 04:21 |
Well then I gotta say you got everything I'd expect from a prog band except keyboards (which aren't really necessary I guess, I just think its important to a proper prog band imo. But at the same time i guess if you're gonna have keyboards just cause all the other guys do thats not very progressive.) But other than that I'd say the music is interesting enough to be called prog.
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bobthesalesman
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Posted: September 01 2005 at 16:17 |
yesman72 wrote:
Well then I gotta say you got everything I'd expect from a prog band except keyboards (which aren't really necessary I guess, I just think its important to a proper prog band imo. But at the same time i guess if you're gonna have keyboards just cause all the other guys do thats not very progressive.) But other than that I'd say the music is interesting enough to be called prog.
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I play keyboards
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alan_pfeifer
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Posted: September 03 2005 at 10:51 |
Don't know if it's what your'e going for, but I'm reminded a bit if VDGG on the beginning of the Old Demo. And I liekd the new demo too, seeing as TMV are a fav of mine. Kep up the good work.
And nice drumming, It's nice to hear someone with some skills behind the set.
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