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Topic: Most Important Albums Of The 70s Posted: August 27 2005 at 01:31 |
The 70s was a real mixed bag in terms of music. Some of the best AND worst came out of this decade. This is my top 10 list of the best:
1. Pink Floyd - The Dark Side Of The Moon:
Without a doubt, the Sgt Pepper of the 70s.
2. The Who - Who's Next:
Not a weak song on this album. Even overpowered Tommy.
3. Rolling Stones - Exile On Main Street:
Just simple basic no frills Rock 'N Roll at it's best.
4. Derek And The Dominoes - Layla And Assorted Love Songs:
Eric and company with a then unknown southern gentleman named Duane giving the sweetest sound to blues oriented rock you've ever heard.
5. Led Zeppelin III:
A hard side, then a softer acoustic side. Zep really showed their diversity here.
6. Yes - Close To The Edge:
Prog's most popular band hit it's peak with this one.
7. Allman Bros. Band - Live At The Fillmore East:
Live albums were pretty much not taken too seriously 'til this one showed up.
8. Bob Dylan - Blood On The Tracks:
A great comeback by America's great troubadour.
9. Steely Dan - Aja:
Inventive, melodic, complex and you can even dance to it. Not an easy feat to achieve.
10. The Sex Pistols - Nevermind The Bullocks:
I hate this album, but never-the-less it did knock down the over indulgence that was going on at the time.
Oh well. That's it. Goodnight!
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Posted: August 27 2005 at 17:44 |
So much happened in the 1970s it's difficult to condense it into 10 best - but here goes;
10. Black Sabbath - Black Sabbath. Here beginneth the first lesson in Heavy Metal.
9. Led Zeppelin - IV. Near perfection.
8. Deep Purple - In Rock. Perfect mayhem.
7. Blue Oyster Cult - Cultosaurus Erectus. The most overlooked masterpiece ever.
6. Queen - A Night At The Opera. Simply outrageous.
5. Groundhogs - Split. Raw rock - cookin'!!!
4. Pink Fairies - Kings of Oblivion. Rock from the street.
3. AC/DC - Highway to Hell. Rock from the gutter.
2. Woodstock. Hey - it might have happened in 1969, but the triple album is one of the greatest non-prog albums released in the 1970s. 2nd best, if you ask me...
1. Motorhead - On Parole. Here endeth the lesson in Heavy Metal. Now we all know. If DSOTM was the "Sgt Pepper" if the 1970s, this would have been the "Please Please Me" if UA had had the guts to release it at the time.
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Posted: August 27 2005 at 18:54 |
1.Rush- 2112 -prog metal was born with the A-side and the discovery of a way for Prog to survive the punk onslaught. 2. Led Zep IV - Would influence rock music for over 3 generations. 3. Deep Purple - Machine Head. More perfect than In-Rock 4. Black Sabbath - Black Sabbath - The real inventors of Heavy metal 5. Floyd - DSOTM- helped keep the audiophile HIFI market afloat.
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Posted: August 27 2005 at 19:49 |
Ok, now for the worst. Most of these albums are by prominent artists hitting a low point in their careers. I'm sure there are some not to well known artist that have putout worse than these.
1. Lou Reed - Metal Machine Music:
Without a doubt the most worthless piece of junk ever recorded.
2. Bee Gees - Saturday Night Fever Soundtrack:
Popular as hell, but a real low point for contemporary music.
3. Jimi Hendrix - Crash Landing:
What, you're saying?! How can this be?! Well, it goes like this. Alan Douglas, a Hendrix buff and producer took some of Jimi's leftover jams and stripped them down to just his guitar parts and dubbed in some studio musicians. The result was just plain blasphemus!
4. Jimi Hendrix - Midnight Lightning:
Same as above. Thank God the Hendrix estate now has control and pulled the plug on this crap.
5. ELP - Love Beach:
What the hell happened to these guys? A creative and influential prog group trying to go pop?!
6. Rolling Stones - Black And Blue:
They hit a real low point here. This is where they had the infamous tour with the giant penis onstage and were actually booed at.
7. Todd Rundgren - Faithful:
Just what was Todd trying to prove by replicating classics like the Beatles Rain, Strawberry Fields Forever and Jimi's If 6 Were 9 among others? It's like he's saying "Oh, I can do this too!" Yeah, but who did it first without the advanced technology.
8. Yes - Tormato:
Prog's most popular band at their lowest. At least 'til the 80s.
9. Bob Dylan - Desire:
Without a doubt his most boring album. He really didn't give it much effort.
10. Pink Floyd - The Wall:
Gonna catch hell for this one. To me, this album is just simply depressing, overindulgent and not to mention a big ego trip for Roger. Not much of a group effort here.
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Posted: August 28 2005 at 09:58 |
The best:
1- Sad Wings Of Destiny- JUDAS PRIEST: one of the most influential albums in the history of metal, as it took the genre into more complex structures and musicianship, which was influenced by prog- indeed, one could say progressive metal starts here...
2- Red- KING CRIMSON: probably their best album after the debut (though they are all great), and was massively influential on the grunge genre that was to appear in the 1990s, due to its bleak riffing and imagery.
3- After The Goldrush- NEIL YOUNG: the album title (and song) refers to the death of the 1960s and the dreams that accompanied it, plus heralded a new era of the singer-songwriter.
4- Deep Purple In Rock- DEEP PURPLE: a massively influential set, and effectively started a new type of rock. The best elements of this album- high voiced wails, monolithic riffing and instrumental virtuosity- would become cliches in the rock genre during the 1980s, but this shows how good the idea was at the beginning.
5- Innervisions- STEVIE WONDER: this is where Stevie could not just be labelled a 'soul' artist, and encompasses a huge array of influences including folk, world music, rock, jazz, blues and even prog, creating a masterwork in the process.
6- Pawn Hearts- VAN DER GRAAF GENERATOR: one of the most wilfully uncommercial albums ever made, with some truly insane experimentalism within it. If Yes were close to the edge, VDGG had long passed it.
7- The Rise And Fall Of Ziggy Stardust- DAVID BOWIE: the best glam album ever made, without a shadow of a doubt. It remains one of the few glam albums ('Electric Warrior' aside) that doesn't consist of singles and a load of filler- indeed, the songs were so good that well over half of it was later issued as a single.
8- Damned Damned Damned- THE DAMNED: the first UK punk LP, and in my opinion, the best- this really did have a huge effect on the industry and made rock vital again after a few stagnant years of pub rock, glam rock, and weak albums by 60s pioneers.
9- Paranoid: BLACK SABBATH: This put metal into the mainstream, as it hit Number 1 in 1970, and still weaves a massive influence on the music world.
10- The Dark Side Of The Moon-PINK FLOYD: Still the biggest selling prog album ever, and well and truly put the so called 'underground' music overground, so to speak.
11- Birds Of Fire- MAHAVISHNU ORCHESTRA: certainly not the first jazz rock album, but possibly the best- it went further out than anything under the jazz genre had ever been before.
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12- Born To Run- BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN: lest we forget, critic Jon Landau infamously proclaimed 'I've seen rock and roll future and his name is Bruce Springsteen'. On this album's evidence, it's hard not to agree- a thoroughly exhilirating album that re-energised the singer-songwriter genre.
13- A Night At The Opera- QUEEN: at the time, this was the most expensive album ever made- it shows, as the production and playing is out of this world quality.
14- Foxtrot- GENESIS: one of the most important albums in prog, as it made the mainstream sit up and take notice of a new musical style, as did the album below:
15- Close To The Edge- YES: one of the most audacious albums ever to be Number 1 in the charts, as they create music not ever heard before.
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Posted: August 28 2005 at 10:03 |
salmacis wrote:
The best:
1- Sad Wings Of Destiny- JUDAS PRIEST: one of the most influential albums in the history of metal, as it took the genre into more complex structures and musicianship, which was influenced by prog- indeed, one could say progressive metal starts here...
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That's on my list at number 11.
Good point about The Damned too - Machine Gun Etiquette was a stronger album, but Damned Damned Damned was the 1st punk album, so very important. I think The Vibrators debut was the second - and "Never Mind..." was the 3rd. If any of The Stranglers albums had been consistent, then I would have included them, but there was an awful lot of (well-played) filler.
Ziggy Stardust is an amazing album too - although I prefer The Man Who Sold The World; it's a more proggy album overall.
Good choices!
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Posted: August 28 2005 at 10:05 |
marktheshark wrote:
8. Yes - Tormato:
Prog's most popular band at their lowest. At least 'til the 80s. |
You're out of your mind.
That's all I'm able to say - frankly I'm speechless. One of my favourite bands put to number 8 on the "10 worst albums of the 70's" list.
I'll go lie down for a while now and see if I can pull myself together.
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Posted: August 28 2005 at 10:26 |
Logos wrote:
marktheshark wrote:
8. Yes - Tormato:
Prog's most popular band at their lowest. At least 'til the 80s. |
You're out of your mind.
That's all I'm able to say - frankly I'm speechless. One of my favourite bands put to number 8 on the "10 worst albums of the 70's" list.
I'll go lie down for a while now and see if I can pull myself together. |
Yes was one of my favorite bands in the 70s too, but this album was a big disappointment.
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Posted: August 28 2005 at 10:38 |
marktheshark wrote:
10. Pink Floyd - The Wall:
Gonna catch hell for this one. To me, this album is just simply
depressing, overindulgent and not to mention a big ego trip for Roger.
Not much of a group effort here.
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NO WAY!!
The most underrated album of the history...
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Posted: August 28 2005 at 10:40 |
marktheshark wrote:
Yes was one of my favorite bands in the 70s too, but this album was a big disappointment.
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To me it wasn't!
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Posted: August 28 2005 at 16:37 |
The worst:
1- Self Portrait/ Dylan- BOB DYLAN: these represent the nadir of the 70s, and why punk had to happen, more than prog rock did- albums of sub standard material and outtakes that should have hit the cutting room floor.
2- Initiation- TODD RUNDGREN: utter tosh- houses a 36 minute instrumental called 'A Treatise On Cosmic Fire' which is mind bogglingly dull keyboard twiddling. Again, more evidence for why punk had to happen- taking the quasi-seriousness and self indulgence out of music. This one always comes in, in those worst albums ever charts.
3- Burning Love And Hits From His Movies- ELVIS PRESLEY: great song, 'Burning Love', but this album is a real puzzler- instead of releasing a full album of 1972 recordings, of which there were lots, Colonel Tom Parker decided to put an album out of rubbish movie songs like 'I Love Only One Girl' from the 1960s! Exploitation at its worst!
4- Sometime In New York City- JOHN LENNON: oh dear...this has to be one of the worst albums ever as well- the first disc is a bunch of desultory political songs, but the real offender is the second disc which is a horrid mess- Zappa, Flo and Eddie plus The Plastic Ono Band playing dreadful ditties like 'Scumbag' and 'Don't Worry Kyoko'.
5- Saturday Night Fever- SOUNDTRACK: I have to agree, this is a real turkey- disco was always one of the more disposable musical genres, and this album confirms that- this stuff is just ultra cheesy nonsense!
6- Works Volume 2- ELP: sorry, but this is just inexcusable- releasing an album of poor quality B sides and outtakes as a NEW album is just cheeky!
7- For Real- JIMI HENDRIX: this has been re-released hundreds of times, and is a terrible live jam with a very stoned Jim Morrison bellowing out nonsense. Hendrix's death meant every guitar playing he ever did, regardless of quality, has been released by now. You can hear the barrel scraping on the records...
8- Earthbound- KING CRIMSON: this was notoriously bad, and has to be the worst quality live album ever officially released.
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Posted: August 28 2005 at 17:23 |
[QUOTE=salmacis] The worst:
7- For Real- JIMI HENDRIX: this has been re-released hundreds of times, and is a terrible live jam with a very stoned Jim Morrison bellowing out nonsense. Hendrix's death meant every guitar playing he ever did, regardless of quality, has been released by now. You can hear the barrel scraping on the records...
You're right about this one, but it's a bootleg and we shouldn't be counting boots. Besides, I remember this being called "Woke Up This Morning And Found Myself Dead" a pretty tasteless title if you ask me. Kramer has been doing pretty good so far on re-releasing some Jimi's more obsure recordings ie. Dagger Records, but I don't think he should waste his time on this one.
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Posted: August 28 2005 at 17:46 |
I believe the Morrison/Hendrix thing was released officially in the 1970s. I could be wrong though, but it has been out on a myriad of cheapo labels ever since.
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Posted: August 28 2005 at 18:19 |
salmacis wrote:
I believe the Morrison/Hendrix thing was released officially in the 1970s. I could be wrong though, but it has been out on a myriad of cheapo labels ever since. |
Also remember Johnny Winter was there too only you can hardly hear him though.
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Posted: August 28 2005 at 18:34 |
salmacis wrote:
The best:
1- Sad Wings Of Destiny- JUDAS PRIEST: one of the most influential albums in the history of metal, as it took the genre into more complex structures and musicianship, which was influenced by prog- indeed, one could say progressive metal starts here...
2- Red- KING CRIMSON: probably their best album after the debut (though they are all great), and was massively influential on the grunge genre that was to appear in the 1990s, due to its bleak riffing and imagery.
3- After The Goldrush- NEIL YOUNG: the album title (and song) refers to the death of the 1960s and the dreams that accompanied it, plus heralded a new era of the singer-songwriter.
4- Deep Purple In Rock- DEEP PURPLE: a massively influential set, and effectively started a new type of rock. The best elements of this album- high voiced wails, monolithic riffing and instrumental virtuosity- would become cliches in the rock genre during the 1980s, but this shows how good the idea was at the beginning.
5- Innervisions- STEVIE WONDER: this is where Stevie could not just be labelled a 'soul' artist, and encompasses a huge array of influences including folk, world music, rock, jazz, blues and even prog, creating a masterwork in the process.
6- Pawn Hearts- VAN DER GRAAF GENERATOR: one of the most wilfully uncommercial albums ever made, with some truly insane experimentalism within it. If Yes were close to the edge, VDGG had long passed it.
7- The Rise And Fall Of Ziggy Stardust- DAVID BOWIE: the best glam album ever made, without a shadow of a doubt. It remains one of the few glam albums ('Electric Warrior' aside) that doesn't consist of singles and a load of filler- indeed, the songs were so good that well over half of it was later issued as a single.
8- Damned Damned Damned- THE DAMNED: the first UK punk LP, and in my opinion, the best- this really did have a huge effect on the industry and made rock vital again after a few stagnant years of pub rock, glam rock, and weak albums by 60s pioneers.
9- Paranoid: BLACK SABBATH: This put metal into the mainstream, as it hit Number 1 in 1970, and still weaves a massive influence on the music world.
10- The Dark Side Of The Moon-PINK FLOYD: Still the biggest selling prog album ever, and well and truly put the so called 'underground' music overground, so to speak.
11- Birds Of Fire- MAHAVISHNU ORCHESTRA: certainly not the first jazz rock album, but possibly the best- it went further out than anything under the jazz genre had ever been before.
EDIT- add a few more...
12- Born To Run- BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN: lest we forget, critic Jon Landau infamously proclaimed 'I've seen rock and roll future and his name is Bruce Springsteen'. On this album's evidence, it's hard not to agree- a thoroughly exhilirating album that re-energised the singer-songwriter genre.
13- A Night At The Opera- QUEEN: at the time, this was the most expensive album ever made- it shows, as the production and playing is out of this world quality.
14- Foxtrot- GENESIS: one of the most important albums in prog, as it made the mainstream sit up and take notice of a new musical style, as did the album below:
15- Close To The Edge- YES: one of the most audacious albums ever to be Number 1 in the charts, as they create music not ever heard before.
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All in all pretty good sal. I can't go with Priest though. I'd give the prog metal throne to Rush. Bruce's Born is a good choice though as well as Stevie's Visions and Bowie's Ziggy. As far as Deep Purple albums, you're right on the money with In Rock. Everybody's always ga-ga over Machine Head which is way overated.
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