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DDPascalDD 
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Joined: August 06 2015 Location: The Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 856 |
 Topic: Pascal van den Dool (NL) for Symphonic/Eclectic?Posted: January 08 2016 at 08:20 |
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Pascal van den DOOL (me) is a
solo artist who began composing orchestral pieces in the beginning of 2014.
First some loose pieces and then two albums.
Still influence is orchestral music. After a while, gaining experience, he discovered prog via Pink Floyd, which has since then been an all-time influence. He began to make something similar with his album "Space" (in july, 2015). Pascal van den DOOL tried to make an album which is more his own style after that. This album, "City Between Two Seas", contains lyrics for the first time and is more played all by himself. This album has also more classical influences and is released the 8th of january, 2016. Links: - Bandcamp - YouTube - Facebook (Dutch) Edited by DDPascalDD - June 30 2017 at 04:08 |
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yam yam
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Crossover Team Joined: June 16 2011 Location: Kerberos Status: Offline Points: 7413 |
Posted: January 08 2016 at 09:37 |
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Listened to your latest album on bandcamp, and enjoyed it tremendously. Beautiful, melodic, well-composed orchestral sounding music...with some lush keys - but I'm not really hearing it as Symphonic Prog as I think it is usually interpreted here on PA (could be wrong though, and often am
 ). I don't feel there is quite sufficient overall complexity or rock content to satisfy that particular team, but I do believe your music belongs on the site. Someone more knowledgeable than myself will be along to comment in due course, but my initial feeling is that this will ultimately be a case for the Crossover team. Hints of Mike Oldfield & Vangelis here and there (as well as the Floyd), and the vocals remind me of Lou Reed to certain extent. Good stuff! 
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DDPascalDD
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Posted: January 08 2016 at 09:45 |
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Thank you so much! I just know too few about prog to know which category it is exactly, we'll see.
Edited by DDPascalDD - January 08 2016 at 09:46 |
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DDPascalDD
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Posted: January 28 2016 at 14:55 |
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No offense of course, but...
Is there being looked at? Only a reminder, I understand you guys must be very busy, but just don't not dare to say it's sh*t.
Edited by DDPascalDD - January 28 2016 at 14:58 |
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O666
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Joined: September 20 2009 Location: TEHRAN-IRAN Status: Offline Points: 2619 |
Posted: January 29 2016 at 12:19 |
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Hello and Welcome to PA forum.
Its normal! in Suggestions section specially when you write "Crossover" in Post title! You wrote Symph/Crossover together and this is not good for teams. Which team must check it ?! I think you must change Symph/Crossover to "Symphonic Prog" (I don't hear your music yet). Perhaps Symphonic team's members reply to your post sooner than Crossover team members.
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DDPascalDD
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Posted: January 29 2016 at 13:40 |
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^Thanks, I did so!
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O666
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Posted: January 30 2016 at 09:52 |
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Hi. I hope they mention to your suggestion. I can't listen to your music yet but I like to do this.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 27 2004 Location: Peru Status: Offline Points: 19557 |
Posted: January 30 2016 at 12:09 |
Hi Pascal, heard your album, I don't believe it fits in Symphonic. Reminds me of Alan Parsons Project second album with hints of Vangelis peculiar brand of electronic space rock, but lighter. I liked it, but I don't believe the Space Rock Team will accept aither. My opinion is Crossover. Good Luck Iván PS: Edit your post and change the name of the theme to Crossover, so they will look at it...Anyway, I¿m sending a note to the team so they will check it.
Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - January 30 2016 at 12:51 |
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DDPascalDD
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Posted: January 30 2016 at 12:24 |
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^Thanks so much!
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: January 30 2016 at 12:50 |
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You're welcome.
Just notified the Crossover Team Iván
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O666
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Posted: January 31 2016 at 08:31 |
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Hi Pascal. As I said before , Symphonic Prog title give you a reply!
Ivan is a Symphonic Prog specialist and I believe him. I hope Crossover team will see your suggestion. Good Luck.
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DDPascalDD
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Posted: February 08 2016 at 14:07 |
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Crossover bands appear to get responds now...
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DDPascalDD
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Posted: February 22 2016 at 15:27 |
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Let's try to get this thing up and up again
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Evolver
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Crossover & JR/F/Canterbury Teams Joined: October 22 2005 Location: The Idiocracy Status: Offline Points: 5482 |
Posted: February 22 2016 at 15:32 |
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Pascal.
Good news. You have been cleared for addition to the site. Do you have a biography that we could use here, as well as a preferred photo?
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Trust me. I know what I'm doing.
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DDPascalDD
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Posted: February 22 2016 at 15:41 |
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^Thnaks so much, very good news indeed!
As for the bio: Pascal van den DOOL is a solo crossover prog artist. He began composing orchestral pieces in the beginning of 2014. Still influence is orchestral music. A new world opened when he discovered prog via Pink Floyd and he made the album "Space" (in july, 2015). After that he tried to make an album with more creativity and emotion in the album "City Between Two Seas" (january, 2016). -------------------------------- But please correct me if there's anything missing, maybe it's a little short?
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DDPascalDD
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Posted: February 22 2016 at 16:02 |
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And photo:
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Evolver
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Crossover & JR/F/Canterbury Teams Joined: October 22 2005 Location: The Idiocracy Status: Offline Points: 5482 |
Posted: February 23 2016 at 10:27 |
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Trust me. I know what I'm doing.
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DDPascalDD
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Posted: June 30 2017 at 05:45 |
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I think Pascal van den Dool should be moved to either Symphonic or Eclectic, rather than Crossover prog.
Firstly, it has a lot of different, mainly classical, influences. You can hear Baroque in the use of harpsichord, fugal composition (a complete fugue and techniques such as retrograde is used), counterpoint (vocals and instrumental) and basso continuo. Adaptions of classical pieces, by Haydn ("Finale") and William Walton ("The sent Alien") show classical influence. Modernist and romantic/impressionistic influence appear clearly on the Tension and Rest pieces on the album Fedus. Jazz is also very clearly there on tracks like "Libore" (almost Fusion) and the soloing on "Phentive". Even a little metal on the beginning of "Phentive". The sound is also very eclectic and often classical, by the orchestra. Lots of different keryboards and there is even trombone used on the last album. Lastly, each album takes a new direction, Space is very spacey and has obvious Pink Floyd influence and is fully instrumental, "City Between Two Seas" is more of Crossover with orchestra and is very lyric-orientated, "The Sent Alien" is more classically influenced and "Fedus" is more jazzy and avant with barely lyrics and no orchestra. So I think it would be better if to put in Eclectic or Symphonic, due to the eclectic/classical influences and sound and the new direction each album takes.
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: June 30 2017 at 05:57 |
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You're here Pascal - where is not really important - but after having listened to your music I find the xover tag just fine.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: June 30 2017 at 11:45 |
Pascal, the problem is that there are soft jazzy passages and some mainstream and others, but lets see it song by song:L 1.- Tension: No Rock component, sounds mainly as Russian 20 Century Neo Classical. 2.- Fedus: Light Jazz 3.- Rest I: More Neo Classical. 4.- Tension II : More Neo Classical. 5.- Phentive: Electronic 6.- Rest II: More Neo Classical. 7.- Tension III: More Neo Classical. 8.- Libore: Soft Jazz and Neo Classical 9.- Rest III: More Neo Classical. 10.- Tension IV: More Neo Classical. 11.- Dalemont: Electro-Symphonic, but mainly Jazz 12.- Rest 4 Ever: More Neo Classical. Honestly, if I was in the Crossover team, I would had said NO, because this is a Progressive ROCK site, and in your music there is no rock except in a couple of tracks, and the jazz elements are not enough for the Fusion team. I believe its good, but after listening carefully, not even Prog Rock. Symphonic it isn't, and Eclectic needs a stronger amount of Rock. Iván
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