another non prog band slips thru

perhaps mercury rev and dillinger shud go under evaluation. I cant see why anyone would thing MR are prog. dillinger however, i can kinda see it but Fantomas and mr bungle have always been the proggier works in my eyes. I am not so sure about these 2 latest editions. What does everyone else think?

I say baleete all the doubt cases(incluiding Marillion).

Although I like DEP, I'm a little unsure if they can be considered prog. They're really more representative of post-hardcore than prog. Don't know Mercury Rev though.

I think that DEP should be here they are doing something completly new - just like Meshuggah did a couple years ago.

riversdancing wrote: No problems with Dillinger, but it's more like a metalcore band. If DEP stay here, then Mastodon will be the next. By the way Babe Ruth was added twice.

Mastodon should probably be here - at least judging by the song I heard today on www.last.fm radio. I'd have to hear a full album, they're quite promising ...

No way Mercury Rev are prog.

MikeEnRegalia wrote: King of Loss wrote: The Dillinger Escape Plan is NOTTTTT Prog, I repeat NOTTT Prog. Death is more Progressive than the Dillinger Escape Plan. No. No. No. No. No.

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.  

By the way, both aren't Progressive.  I like some of their music and will be forced to see DEP come 6 days, but still not Prog.

D.E.P IS a Prog band!!of course if prog means just coping the ideas of 70's bands ,then yes they are not;but if prog means exploring new aspects and generally new ways of expression in music ,then they are prog.And i do think that DEP do exactly that.They are not exactly metalcore;basically they play in a grindcore basis with many noise and even ambient parts.The riffing also is actually prog metal;it's like  Psychotic Walts and Watchtower playing much much faster and if you watch their music more closely you can find also jazz elements played in a more ''morbid'' way.It's really great that bands like this one are in this site and i hope that the road will also open for bands like Neurosis,Convenrge,Candiria,Mastodon(even if i don't like them),Jesu,Sunn 0))),Pelican,Merzbow(why not) and more....

None of those bands including Isis, Converge are even CLOSE TO PROG. Those are just either Doom Metal/Post-Hardcore bands in Isis' and Pelican's case and Converge's case they are Brutal Metalcore. If Metalcore is taking something to a new height, then yes you are right, but that does not make it progressive! Or every single new genre in music is Progressive, even Freakin' Emo!

Fantomas and Meshuggah are definitely not Progressive.

King of Loss wrote: Fantomas and Meshuggah are definitely not Progressive.

Sorry, you're biased against Avant-Prog ... at least it seems so. I'm biased against Krautrock - but that's no reason to want it removed from the archives.