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'PiphanyRambler
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Topic: Dark Prog Posted: November 17 2014 at 09:25 |
Hi everyone. Given my mood lately, I thought I could use some dark and gloomy music. I've listened to a lot of VdGG, but I struggle to find other bands with such a convoluted and "serious" sound. I would like to ask you some suggestions for what I like to call "dark prog". I don't mind heavy music. Here's what I've been listening to recently: - VdGG
- Peter Hammill
- "Red"-era King Crimson
- Kayo Dot
- maudlin of the Well
- Leprous
- Devin Townsend
- The Gathering
- A Silver Mt. Zion
- Parallel or 90 Degrees
- 65daysofstatic
- Agalloch
- Indukti
Any suggestion is welcome, thank you in advance for your help.
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HolyMoly
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Posted: November 17 2014 at 09:39 |
Welcome to PA! I like the dark stuff too.
A couple of Italian bands come to mind, based on your list. You're from Italy, maybe you know them already. Devil Doll (80s) is very dramatic and dark, with a vocalist who likes to sound like Gollum from time to time. Jacula (early 70s) is an interesting pipe organ-based fusion of dark church music and occasional metallic guitars, with a charismatic female vocalist.
On the more metallic side, if you don't mind things getting a bit weird, try early Harvey Milk (especially Courtesy and Good Will Toward Men) - slow, tortuous, and very experimental metal. Slightly more accessible is Boris, who aren't on PA as a prog band but they're close enough to recommend here. They really run the gamut stylistically, but their earliest drone-metal efforts are very dark indeed.
I also highly recommend Univers Zero's Heresie album if you haven't heard it already.
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'PiphanyRambler
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Posted: November 17 2014 at 10:03 |
Wow, that was a quick reply! I'm definitely going to check these bands out. Univers Zero is good indeed, I've only listened to their first album so far, so I'm sure I'll like Heresie too.
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Posted: November 17 2014 at 10:22 |
I'm sure i'll post more later, but immediately i thought of Anekdoten. They should do the trick for you.
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Posted: November 17 2014 at 11:16 |
Karda Estra-Voivode Dracula Anglagard-Epilog Art Zoyd-Nosferatu Art Zoyd-Le Mariage du Ciel et de l' Enfer Art Zoyd-Les Espaces Inquiets/Phase IV/Archives II Patricia Dallio- La Ronce N'est Pas Le Pire Patricia Dallio-Barbe Bleue Patricia Dallio-Procession Present-trishaideliaphobic/le poison qui rend fou David Bedford-Star Clusters, Nebulae & Places In Devon
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Posted: November 17 2014 at 11:29 |
As well as Univers Zero check out
Present Shub Niggurath Eskaton Arteria Thinking Plague Guapo Dead Can Dance Art Zoyd Comus Combat Astronomy Unit Wail
and of course, Magma
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'PiphanyRambler
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Posted: November 17 2014 at 12:01 |
Thank you for all these suggestions, guys! I'll probably have to spend a month listening to them all . That makes me happy, of course. And Magma is great indeed (I know their first album and I love it)!
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richardh
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Posted: November 17 2014 at 14:02 |
Steven Wilson's debut solo album (Insurgentes) is considerably darker than anything he did with Porcupine Tree imo so I would put that forward also.
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'PiphanyRambler
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Posted: November 17 2014 at 15:08 |
That's good to know, as I think that the Porcupine Tree albums I heard (Stupid Dream, Lightbulb Sun) lacked that dark and heavy edge I looked for (I've heard some of Fear of a Blank Planet though, and that's another story).
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Posted: November 17 2014 at 15:17 |
Steve Hackett.......Darktown
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Posted: November 17 2014 at 15:45 |
Ulver - Shadows of the Sun, Perdition City, Blood Inside, Messe Grails - Deep Politics, Burning Off Impurities, Take Refuge in Clean Living Dead Can Dance - Within a Realm of A Dying Sun, The Serpents Egg Tangerine Dream - Zeit Secret Chiefs 3 - Le Mani Destre Reccise Degli Ultimi Uomini Tartar Lamb and as already mentioned, Univers Zero and Comus!!!
Not really prog but: Swans - The Seer Pram - Dark Island Oneirogen Kwaidan Baron Cocteau Twins
Edited by bloodnarfer - November 17 2014 at 15:53
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Posted: November 17 2014 at 15:51 |
Horizons wrote:
I'm sure i'll post more later, but immediately i thought of Anekdoten. They should do the trick for you. |
This! Come over to the Dark Side, young Skywalker!
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'PiphanyRambler
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Posted: November 17 2014 at 16:36 |
timothy leary wrote:
Steve Hackett.......Darktown |
Oh, Darktown! I used to listen to that, then it kind of got lost. I should revisit that.
SteveG wrote:
Horizons wrote:
I'm sure i'll post more later, but immediately i thought of Anekdoten. They should do the trick for you. | This! Come over to the Dark Side, young Skywalker! |
Well, that sounds both reassuring and creepy. I'm going to check 'em out as soon as I can. In the meantime I listened to the first album by Devil Doll and it's been a blast! I had never bothered with italian bands, but it turns out it's been my loss all this time
Edited by 'PiphanyRambler - November 17 2014 at 16:49
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Posted: November 17 2014 at 16:38 |
Besides the bands suggested by the previous posters (all excellent choices), I'd mention two of the bands I saw at the Orion Studios on November 8: Alec K Redfearn and the Eyesores and Discipline. The former hail from Providence, HP Lovecraft's hometown - you can't get any darker than that ! Discipline, on the other hand, even though not as Avant-leaning in musical terms, are very dark lyrically, and very intense both on CD and on stage.
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Posted: November 17 2014 at 16:56 |
As you'd expect, there's a lot under metal thats dark (but not as much as some would like to believe, there's a difference between dark and heavy).
Ihsahn- After, Erimita Anathema- The Silent Enigma Opeth- Blackwater Park Wolves in the Throne Room- Celestial Lineage Marillion- any of the first 4 albums In the Woods... Strange in Stereo
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Posted: November 17 2014 at 16:59 |
OH MAN!!!!!!! You want dark prog and you love VDGG???? Island- Pictures It's a 1977 album. You'll have to search the year or you'll just get pictures of islands.
This will blow you away. Holy cow. This album is one of my favorites and it is similar to VDGG
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Posted: November 17 2014 at 17:03 |
From those that have been mentioned my thumbs up for
Ulver (although try the 1998 album - great concept) Dead Can Dance Devil Doll
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Posted: November 17 2014 at 17:06 |
Smurph wrote:
OH MAN!!!!!!! You want dark prog and you love VDGG????
Island- Pictures It's a 1977 album. You'll have to search the year or you'll just get pictures of islands.
This will blow you away. Holy cow. This album is one of my favorites and it is similar to VDGG |
Oh yeah I forgot that thing existed, that's a good one! although they kinda lose me at the 'gastric juices' bit I think I'm going to listen to it now (if I can find it)
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'PiphanyRambler
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Posted: November 17 2014 at 17:19 |
A big yay for Discipline, Anathema and Marillion (although I've only heard 2 albums by them)! Speaking about Opeth, instead, I have to admit that I don't like them. I've listened to their first 4 albums some time ago but they didn't clicked with me for whatever reason. All the other bands I'll have to check out.
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richardh
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Posted: November 18 2014 at 00:51 |
Be careful with Anathema as they 'found the light' on their last 3 albums. A Fine Day To Exit and Judgement of the older albums are worth checking out though.
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