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progaardvark ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover/Symphonic/RPI Teams Joined: June 14 2007 Location: Sea of Peas Status: Offline Points: 52584 |
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Neither party has a platform for the 2018 mid-terms. Both websites still have their 2016 platforms. You can read them here:
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SteveG ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 11 2014 Location: Kyiv In Spirit Status: Offline Points: 20617 |
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^ "Same as it ever was." "Same as it ever was." "Same as it ever was." |
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Easy Money ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 11 2007 Location: Memphis Status: Offline Points: 10678 |
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"In my opinion, the opposite of a Nationalist Platform is a Globalist Platform."
..and the opposite of thinking you have only two choices would be called intelligent creativity. |
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npjnpj ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: December 05 2007 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 2720 |
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So, pipe bombs for the enemy of the people. Whoever would have thunk it! Still waiting for a message from the sh*t stirrer in chief. I wonder how long it's going to be before the Republicans are going to accuse the Democrats of being at the bottom of this just to gather sympathy votes.
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HackettFan ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 20 2012 Location: Oklahoma Status: Offline Points: 7951 |
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Actually, I don't agree with Steve G. However, know that, as you rail against the far left and advocate a return to the center, Globalism is the center. The left is actually highly skeptical and critical of global agreements. It is a frequent annoyance to me when advocates of a 'return the center' can't accurately and without contradiction figure out what the center is. We have never had a left leaning government in the White House, so I view your return to the center comments as just nonsense. Secondly, your comments on platform are nonsensical. Platforms are products that parties create during Presidential elections as negotiated with the upper hand by whoever wins the nomination. Prior to that platforms are merely the stuff of think tanks or hopeful candidates. They do not occur in off year elections quite simply because the Presidency is not in play. Edited by HackettFan - October 24 2018 at 21:41 |
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A curse upon the heads of those who seek their fortunes in a lie. The truth is always waiting when there's nothing left to try. - Colin Henson, Jade Warrior (Now)
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micky ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 02 2005 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 46838 |
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I did have to admit I laughed out loud about the latest Trumpism with health care and preexisting conditions... made a lot of Republicans who voted to remove protections for those with preexisting conditions very uncomfortable.. as in why the f**k did you go THERE.. knowing we supported you and your petty attempt to take away health care just because your hated predessor had it as a signature achievement..
and all just under two weeks to the election. Bad f**king timing...
Trump voter and the ... ignorant, stupid, or simply nonsensical might tear at Trump's red meat.. and blame Democrats for teh mess with healthcare....but most rational and half thinking voters know just who has tried to fix the healthcare problem and who is completely tone deaf on the issue and has no idea or plan to address a very serious issue we have a nation and society. |
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rogerthat ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: September 03 2006 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 9869 |
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Yeah, economically her views seem closer to Sanders/Corbyn which is definitely not center. |
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Edited by SteveG - October 25 2018 at 04:02 |
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SteveG ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 11 2014 Location: Kyiv In Spirit Status: Offline Points: 20617 |
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Back to Trump World:
I think that it's sickening that POTUS is blaming the "fake news" media for all of yesterday's bombing attempts. Is there no level so low that the Donald won't sink to? I think not and I will celebrate for years when he's finally out of office.
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Easy Money ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 11 2007 Location: Memphis Status: Offline Points: 10678 |
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Her weird mix of nationalism and socialism is nothing new, it was popular in certain parts of Europe in the early 40s.
"When asked whether he supported the "bourgeois right-wing", Hitler claimed that Nazism was not exclusively for any class and he indicated that it favoured neither the left nor the right, but preserved "pure" elements from both "camps" by stating: "From the camp of bourgeois tradition, it takes national resolve, and from the materialism of the Marxist dogma, living, creative Socialism"." Edited by Easy Money - October 25 2018 at 04:30 |
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SteveG ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 11 2014 Location: Kyiv In Spirit Status: Offline Points: 20617 |
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Which is why I was surprised that her ears didn't perk up when I mentioned nationalism!
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omphaloskepsis ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 19 2011 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 6793 |
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Supposedly, this is the 2018 Midterm Democrat Platform. https://www.vox.com/2018/5/21/17376128/democrats-better-deal-democracy-midterm-2018 “We make voting in this country more complicated than it needs to be,” Rep. John Sarbanes (D-MD), the chair of the Democracy Reform Task Force, which led the effort to write this agenda, told me. To counter it, Democrats plan to hit the campaign trail with policy proposals aimed at tightening lobbying rules.
Among these proposals would be legally requiring presidential candidates to disclose their tax returns. That’s a direct reaction to Trump, who has yet to release his financial records, bucking decades of political precedent and breaking his own promises of transparency.
Sarbanes also cited a proposal that would tighten lobbying rules and institute statutes against former lobbyists becoming Cabinet officials in agencies that have purview over industries that previously employed them.
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SteveG ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 11 2014 Location: Kyiv In Spirit Status: Offline Points: 20617 |
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^ Well, I don't see the word platform mentioned anywhere in the text but you now are better informed then you were 24 hours ago. These are some of the issues and policy proposals that the Democrats will focus on for 2018 but there are many more.
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omphaloskepsis ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 19 2011 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 6793 |
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So Easy Money, you're conflating me with Fascism? If so, that's a huge leap. Easy Money, if you can fathom my past posts then you must surmise: 1. I'm against Totalitarianism on the Right, Left, and Center. I hate authoritative governments. From Stalin to Hitler and any dictator. Deep down I'm a libertarian. I already explained why libertarianism can't work in conjunction with selfish human behavior. 2. I'm not for socialism. Yet I am practical and the world doesn't care if I'm against socialism. I despise socialism. Although, considering probabilities and reality, I can't imagine a world where there is no socialism. Therefore if limited socialism can't be avoided, I wish for a type where the individual has more control over the way their tax money is spent. Which is why I like Sweden's voucher system. At least the parents can choose the school they send their children to. When schools compete against other schools, the education system improves as the schools compete against each other for students and voucher money. The end result. Higher teacher pay and highly educated students. And that's a good thing. My hatred for totalitarianism and dislike for socialism totally disqualifies me as a fascist. In addition to my spotless police record coupled with the fact I've never committed assault, fraud, or even bounced a check. I choose nursing the elderly because I have the ability to make them comfortable, listen to their stories, wash them, bring them food and do what I can to help them smile in the most difficult period of their lives. So Easy Money... Do you conflate everyone you disagree with to Hitler's Nazi Fascist regime? Is that's your only argument? Rebranding me as a evil Nazi?
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Easy Money ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 11 2007 Location: Memphis Status: Offline Points: 10678 |
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^ I have no idea what you are, and I'm not really interested either.
You do like to quote from folks who lean in that direction, such as you're "Styxx" character from a few pages back, ... and no, I don't call everyone I disagree with a nazi, for instance I have never called my Jewish wife a nazi, no matter how much we disagree. |
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The Dark Elf ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: February 01 2011 Location: Michigan Status: Offline Points: 13221 |
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A white loon from Pittsburgh with a pronounced hatred of Jews he has posted on various internet sites, stated "There is no #MAGA as long as there is a kike infestation," walked into a synagogue and opened fire, killing at least 11 worshipers today.
A steroid-addled pro-Trump zealot mailed 14 pipe bombs to various politicians and celebrities. A white supremacist in Kentucky walked into a Kroger and gunned down two African-Americans after he unsuccessfully tried to enter an African-American Baptist church. He told a bystander who confronted him, "Whites don't kill whites." A white supremacist leader of a violent neo-Nazi group and three of his henchmen were arrested by the FBI in California for assault and inciting riot. White supremacists were "directly responsible" for 18 out of 34 U.S. extremist-related deaths in 2017, the Anti-Defamation League said. Islamic extremists, by comparison, were only responsible for nine deaths in America. There is one person in the United States responsible for this. One person who continues to promote violence and divisiveness and unmitigated hatred of the "other". One person who invites violence against mainstream media for reporting facts and not half-baked conspiracy theories concocted by the tinfoil hat alt-right media. One person who condoned tiki-torch wielding Klansmen and Brownshirts in Charlottesville, referring to them as "fine people", even after a neo-Nazi drove a car into a crowd. His name is Donald Trump. He is currently President of the United States. He must go.
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DorothyBaldieFille ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: October 16 2018 Location: Cologne Status: Offline Points: 22 |
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I am not certain what is meant when someone says he is against socialism. Does he mean he is against the idea of socialism? Or does he mean he is against how this idea was enacted, for example in the GDR? Is he actually aware that socialism is multi-faceted and there is no single definition that encapsulates all of these facets? Is he aware that early Christian communities were very socialist in nature?
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npjnpj ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: December 05 2007 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 2720 |
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I think it just means that he doesn't want to pay for the poor. @DarkElf: it's amazing how Trump is able to make people come out of their shell.
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micky ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 02 2005 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 46838 |
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yes he must.. but what would remain is the real problem we have. All the millions of Trump-like people and those who don't take the responsibility of voting serously enough to have voted for someone like that .. knowing all that... well before they cast their votes. You know... that all is bad enough.. but this might have been the final straw with Trump. I was reading the highlights of the game last night and what do I see in teh middle of the story.. yep... him. Two more years man.. two more years... The circumstance even prompted a tweet from President Donald Trump.
"The president said that?" Roberts said when told about the tweet. "I'm happy he was tuning in and watching the game. I don't know how many Dodger games he's watched. I don't think he is privy to the conversation. That's one man's opinion." |
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SteveG ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 11 2014 Location: Kyiv In Spirit Status: Offline Points: 20617 |
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A sickening week in the US for sure with even more divisiveness being ramped up on both sides. CNN holds that Trump is responsible for all the ills with his non stop rhetoric while Fox News does all it can to hold him blameless and claim a Democrat double standard. If one switches back and forth between this non stop 24/7 debate it is quite comical and looks like a spoof one would find on an episode of South Park. That's how surreal and unreal this all has become in the modern era of Trump.
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