For my Libertarian friends

thellama73 wrote: The T wrote: Thanks. As hard as it could be for you to believe it, I'll check at least one of them out. I'm in need of some political reading lately anyway. Too much literature. If you are honestly interested in learning, I wouldn't find it hard to believe. I like to know as much as I can about all sides (in anything). Scary to deal with opposing beliefs but I like to keep an open mind. Knowledge is good!

I'm very intersted. I'm always interested in knowing more. It would (will) help me understand you even more. Here conversation is chaotic and there's too much "my comment will leave you in the dust" stuff from both sides so I want a clear one-side vision of all these principles. I can only grow more from that.

I'm on my phon and it sucks for long posts. Quickly: most political books I've read have been about south american and global politics. Not too much about America. Actually, I read one satire book by a conservative humourist (not really a satir, I just don't want to delete now what I write since it's so difficult) whose main subject was the islamizarion of Europe, and how only America still had a replacement birth rate high enough to uphold western values. I also read Al Gore's Book (but I never finished it (was not good really). I've read lots of books on history of the left in a global scale, and on the extremes, I've read Das Kapital, Communist Manifesto, The role of work in the trabsition from ape to man, 5 revolutionary thesis by Mao, the origin of state, family and private property by Engels and Mein Kampf. (all these are the EXTREMES remember). I lack more in-depth analysis of American current politics specially the libertarian side.

i havent been on this website for a long time and im vvery happy to see how their is a large libertarian/freedom group here it really does brighten my spirit. it is obvious that this country(usa) is in the process of becoming more totalitarian ever since 9/11, and we must not let usa lose what it was born to be.. a land of freedom.

The T wrote: I also read Al Gore's Book (but I never finished it (was not good really).

 

^Oh I left the name out ... The Assault on reason by Al Gore. 

Eddy wrote: i havent been on this website for a long time and im vvery happy to see how their is a large libertarian/freedom group here it really does brighten my spirit. it is obvious that this country(usa) is in the process of becoming more totalitarian ever since 9/11, and we must not let usa lose what it was born to be.. a land of freedom.

There isn't though.  There's like, what, four of us? 

Perhaps you with be the fifth, and that brightens my spirit. 

See, we're not all so different!
Add making fun of Al Gore to the list of things we all agree on

The T wrote: Another question, this one fresh from the news... The GOP is trying to repeal the 14 amendment to the Constitution which grants people born here even from illegal immigrants citizenship. What do you think? Een Lou Dobbs of all people have said it is too much. I wonder what will you say. Pat Shields always mentions the Supreme Text. Do you think this is going against its spirit? Do you think a change is necessary? Do you think the GOP is just riding the wave of immigration chaos in order to gain favor? Opinions?

I haven't made up my mind on this subject.

Oh I don't know. I don't care too much one way or another, but I suppose I would leave the 14th amendment intact.

Edited by thellama73 - August 03 2010 at 21:41

The T wrote: Another question, this one fresh from the news... The GOP is trying to repeal the 14 amendment to the Constitution which grants people born here even from illegal immigrants citizenship. What do you think? Een Lou Dobbs of all people have said it is too much. I wonder what will you say. Pat Shields always mentions the Supreme Text. Do you think this is going against its spirit? Do you think a change is necessary? Do you think the GOP is just riding the wave of immigration chaos in order to gain favor? Opinions?

If they are trying to gain favor, it's a fools errand.  Caucasians are well on their way to becoming a minority in this country, so the party that takes the harshest stands against immigrants, legal or illegal, may wind up regretting doing so.

Epignosis wrote: Slartibartfast wrote: The T wrote: Another question, this one fresh from the news... The GOP is trying to repeal the 14 amendment to the Constitution which grants people born here even from illegal immigrants citizenship. What do you think? Een Lou Dobbs of all people have said it is too much. I wonder what will you say. Pat Shields always mentions the Supreme Text. Do you think this is going against its spirit? Do you think a change is necessary? Do you think the GOP is just riding the wave of immigration chaos in order to gain favor? Opinions? If they are trying to gain favor, it's a fools errand.  Caucasians are well on their way to becoming a minority in this country, so the party that takes the harshest stands against immigrants, legal or illegal, may wind up regretting doing so. Are you implying that politicians should do what is in the best interest of their political careers in accordance with racial stereotypes instead of what's right for the country?

No, he's implying that those opposed to the 14th ammendment are doing what they think is best for their political careers in accordance with racial stereotypes and it may backfire on them.