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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 15 2012 at 04:30
Excellent first win for Nico, I think even without that pitstop problem, Button would have had a tough time catching him at the end there. Interestingly it comes in the 30th aniversary year for dad Keke's championship win.

That was a crazy end to the race, with McLaren, Red Bull, Ferrari, Lotus, Williams and Sauber (both cars from all 6 teans) all fighting it out for second down, more of the same please!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 15 2012 at 05:17
I'm glad for Nico, Ross Brawn and the whole Mercedes team, I didn't expect that he could turn the pole into a win!
 
He drove a two stop strategy but it didn't matter, even if in the end they would have felt like he had to make a third change he had enough of a gap to afford it. Button would not have catched him even without the pit problem. This and Michael's show that every pit top involves some risks and sometimes this may be a reason for trying to go for as less pitstops as possible.
 
The final laps were really great. I feel sorry for Kimi though. 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 15 2012 at 10:47
Indeed, I think Nico had it the whole time, though it certainly would have been closer without the stop mishap.

It was nuts how close the field was. All race long really, but especially that madness at the end.

I did have to hurt for my boy Kimi but he was bottling up the field...eventually the pressure was gunna burst. And boy did he drop like a stone. He's already exceeded my expectations anyway so I'm happy about thatBig smile



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 15 2012 at 14:22
Yeah, 30 laps was just a few too many to ask of those tyres today, probably the most dramatic example of "hitting the cliff" that I've ever seen.

Excellent drive from Senna as well today, finished 7th for Williams, well into that mad battle and did it with a damaged front wing the whole race.

If Mercedes can keep this kind of speed going, I predict a three way battle for the title this year between them, McLaren and Red Bull (maybe even Ferrari, if the update for Spain fixes their problems, Alonso's certainly close enough).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 15 2012 at 21:20
Why didn't he pit though when those tires went off?  That was puzzling to me.  I reckon he could have come in and come back out in the same place he ended up but with fresh tires he'd have got past a few.  Hmm.

Andy, can you see Schumacher winning a race this year?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 15 2012 at 21:35
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 04:13
Originally posted by VanderGraafKommandöh VanderGraafKommandöh wrote:

Why didn't he pit though when those tires went off?  That was puzzling to me.  I reckon he could have come in and come back out in the same place he ended up but with fresh tires he'd have got past a few.  Hmm.

Andy, can you see Schumacher winning a race this year?

By that point I'm guessing they thought it would be a case of damned if you do and damned if you dont. There was what, 10/11 cars behind Raikkonen by the time his tyres went off and he would have just dropped behind Massa again, who he had been unable to get past earlier. The two stop strategy was the wrong choice in the first place, if he'd gone for 3 he'd probably still have been in the thick of that fight.

If Mercedes can keep hitting the sweet spot for set up on the tyres then yes, he'll challenge. Sschumy was the more impressive of their two drivers in the first two races, Nico just happens to be a bit of a Shanghai specialst (remember if he hadnt been under fueled he may very well have won last year as well). Thats why I said in my last post that it will be a fight between the top 3 teams, it will have all 6 drivers involved.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 04:14
Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

Yeah, 30 laps was just a few too many to ask of those tyres today, probably the most dramatic example of "hitting the cliff" that I've ever seen.

Excellent drive from Senna as well today, finished 7th for Williams, well into that mad battle and did it with a damaged front wing the whole race.

If Mercedes can keep this kind of speed going, I predict a three way battle for the title this year between them, McLaren and Red Bull (maybe even Ferrari, if the update for Spain fixes their problems, Alonso's certainly close enough).


Indeed it was, and even Maldonado snuck in there! Williams has really improved this year.

I'll agree about Mercedes, they could be a legit contender which means Schumi may get a win!
If things maintain I actually don't know if RBR can challenge for the  title Shocked

Ferrari we needa see, but I wouldn't mind if Alonso could get in the gameBig smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 04:28
Yeah, Williams have improved.  However, I'm disappointed in the progression (or lack of) with Force India.  They did bring some updates, apparently, or will be for the next race, so we'll see.

It was also great to see Grosjean finally doing well.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 04:30
Oh yeah I did think FI would be even better this year. Indeed plenty of time to go.

Hope everything is fine for Bahrain. I'm sure it will be but ya know..it's a bit messy over there.
I'd try to stop the race if I was those guys
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 04:33
I'm just hoping no teams/drivers pull out.  I'd rather all teams pulled out than a few.

Hopefully it'll go ahead with no issues though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 04:56
Originally posted by VanderGraafKommandöh VanderGraafKommandöh wrote:

I'm just hoping no teams/drivers pull out.  I'd rather all teams pulled out than a few.




I heard someone else say that, never came to my mind but yeah...hope that doesn't happen.

I'm guessing things will be fine but ya never know.
They did next up was the "controversial Bahrain GP" is there any sentiment out there that may not want to do the race??

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 07:13
There's been some unease amongst the teams about Bahrain, but they made it clear that any decision to race there would entirely be up to the FIA since it's their job to guarantee the safety of those involved. I'm pretty certain the teams wont have any problems out there since the track is the opposite end of the island to where most of the trouble has been, but thats not really the issue.  The Al Khalifa's are trying to use the race to tell everyone that everything is fine in the country, which plainly isnt true, the problem is that accurate reporting on the situation is difficult to come by. It's not all out rioting, but it's not entirely peacful either.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 07:14
Originally posted by VanderGraafKommandöh VanderGraafKommandöh wrote:

I'm just hoping no teams/drivers pull out.  I'd rather all teams pulled out than a few.

Hopefully it'll go ahead with no issues though.

Wont happen, they'd be in serious trouble with the FIA and Bernie if they did. Also, McLaren are part owned by the Bahrain royal family, so if the race is on they'll definitely be there.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 07:17
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

Yeah, 30 laps was just a few too many to ask of those tyres today, probably the most dramatic example of "hitting the cliff" that I've ever seen.

Excellent drive from Senna as well today, finished 7th for Williams, well into that mad battle and did it with a damaged front wing the whole race.

If Mercedes can keep this kind of speed going, I predict a three way battle for the title this year between them, McLaren and Red Bull (maybe even Ferrari, if the update for Spain fixes their problems, Alonso's certainly close enough).


Indeed it was, and even Maldonado snuck in there! Williams has really improved this year.

I'll agree about Mercedes, they could be a legit contender which means Schumi may get a win!
If things maintain I actually don't know if RBR can challenge for the  title Shocked

Ferrari we needa see, but I wouldn't mind if Alonso could get in the gameBig smile

Red Bull are still very quick (equal to McLaren in race conditions), it's just that their exhaust layout makes the car difficult to drive on the edge.

Force India have been really disappointing so far since they looked like they migh have been a regular points scorer during testing, they and Torro Rosso were the only two established teams not really fighting for points yesterday (TR always seem to start the year slowly).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 08:53
Torro Rosso have got worse (well, I think it's more the case of the midpack teams having improved).  They're not even close to Top 10 pace.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 16:25
Yeah I imagine it'll be fine. As you say there's no chance of a pull out, or the race being called now. The actual safety should be fine, at the very least because you know the government would not allow any trouble near the race anyway.

Here the news has dried up completely, only reason I know of the rioting in Bahrain is thanks to WikiLOL
Only talk we get now is America's next war destination Syria (but that's for another thread)

Force India has been a disappointment indeed. James could be right though, with how great the field is may not even be a backslide but everyone just improved that much more.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 16:35
I was in the pub earlier and Sky Sports was on and I noticed a snippet regarding Red Bull and Christian Horner said they're going to think about bringing in a rear wing like Mercedes.

I'm not sure when they'll do this by though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 18:45
I wouldnt expect it to be soon, it's a complicated bit of kit.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 19 2012 at 19:59
Goodness, Textbook has derailed the entire first page.

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