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Cboi Sandlin
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Live dangerously? Dude, the death rate is .6%. It isnt some "deadly pandemic" like the media likes to call it, it isnt much worse than the flu. That .6% of people, the ones who are dying, are all of the people who are either super old or have a serious disease like cancer. And you know what, all of those people can go get the vaccine now. Old people and those who are at risk are all eligible to get the vaccine, so there is zero reason for anybody to be afraid of COVID, because the only people who can get it now are the young people who are at zero risk. Now that, is science.
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Cboi Sandlin
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Okay, here is some evidence: https://wethepeopleconvention.org/articles/here-is-the-science-proving-masks-do-not-work https://www.rcreader.com/commentary/masks-dont-work-covid-a-review-of-science-relevant-to-covide-19-social-policy https://www.aier.org/article/the-cdcs-mask-mandate-study-debunked/ https://www.afa.net/the-stand/culture/2020/09/it-is-scientifically-impossible-for-masks-to-work/
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dougmcauliffe
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Niche, openly evangelical Christian conservative, confirmation bias nonsense ^ it might be easy to believe if you're living in delusional tunnel vision land with no grasp on reality. But yeah, just go ahead and conveniently ignore all the overwhelming evidence over the last several decades that masks do in fact work for Karens four facebook posts listed above. Like you just have to go out of your way to be dumb enough to fully embrace and accept any of those articles as the truth. As far as i'm concerned, you bang two rocks together in your free time and communicate in "unga bungas" and dissonant grunting noises rather than English. Get that sh*t outta here
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The Dark Elf
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Judging by the sites you referenced, I assume you have to wear a tinfoil helmet to capture the correct frequency. You see, when I research the medical efficacy of an item, I go to actual medical and university sites...because...scientific research: Like the prestigious Mayo Clinic.... https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-mask/art-20485449 Or The University of California, San Francisco.... Or world-renowned Johns Hopkins.... Or the equally renowned MIT.... Or how about the National Academy of Sciences.... Or the American Medical Association.... Or the British Medical Journal.... Of course, I could add the FDA, CDC, WHO and nearly every other medical organization in the world. But my list would drag on for several pages, and you aren't required to wear a tinfoil hat.
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nick_h_nz
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The ignorance and arrogance of people like yourself is a slap in the face of those who have suffered from covid. I am no spring chicken at 45, and I have no pre-existing conditions, but I suffered greatly, but I consider myself lucky because although I am still suffering the after-effects, I should have no lasting damage, and I am still alive. Concentrating on only the mortality rate is missing a lot of the damage the virus leaves. The recovery rate is great, but you need to remember that recovery only means “didn’t die”. Many of those who have “recovered” from the virus are still suffering. Many people have lasting heart and or lung damage, from which they will never recover. Many are suffering symptoms similar to ME. I had covid in January, and am still suffering long after the virus left me. I am lucky, because my chest X-ray was clear, so I will eventually come right. A friend’s sister, who wasn’t much older than me and had no pre-existing conditions, died last year. Another friend had covid around June last year, and though the virus has long left his body, he is still suffering, and has had to be hospitalised twice since because of the damage to his lungs. Again, around my age, and his only pre-existing condition is asthma. Not only science, but common sense, says masks work. So by all means, choose not to wear a mask, but do us a favour and don’t brag about it here. |
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Cboi Sandlin
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Ok so those show that masks can block sneezes, but that doesnt matter because most people just block their sneezes with their arm. The fact is, though masks can block most of the particles from talking and stuff, enough of those particles can get through to spread the disease. The COVID particles are too small to be filtered out by a mask
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Now we all know how Bane feels. Masks don't help stop viruses ? Then why is the flu & cold rate so low this season ? |
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It's a lot more complicated than the particles just being too small. The physics of droplets in air is complicated. A large percentage of them won't make it through the holes in a mask. This article can explain it much better than I: This is actually really old science. It was known back in 1918 that they worked. And yes, masks aren't perfect. It's why we need to socially distance ourselves, stay out of crowds, and limit our time in buildings that don't have good ventilation. It's one of the reasons why restaurants are super-spreaders. People can't eat through their masks, so they don't wear them. It's why I do takeout only, so that I can enjoy good food and still support the businesses so they can survive this pandemic.
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Regarding not wearing a face mask ............
“The two most common elements in the universe are Hydrogen and stupidity.” ― Harlan Ellison
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Because they have all been rediagnosed as covid. Flus, colds and covid are all coranaviruses. The PCR test which is being used to test doesn't work. Dr Kary Mullis, inventor of the PCR test has stated publicly numerous times that the PCR test was not designed to diagnose infectious diseases. How they are diagnosing COVID is by simply extracting RNA fragments and then using a computer program to fill in the remaining info. There are hundreds of scientists who have called this all out as a scam in how it's being sold to the public. After taking in hundreds of hours of lectures, debates, discussions and whistleblower testimonies, i have to say that the lack of consensus amongst scientists should cause one to question the official narrative at the very least. For many who haven't learned the intricacies of biology and the money-driven madness of consensus science and what gets funded, you will not understand why many of us are distrustful of the establishment which has a history of fraud. Edited by siLLy puPPy - March 29 2021 at 20:27 |
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nick_h_nz
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Flu viruses are not coronaviruses. Some cold viruses are coronaviruses, but not all, and the most common colds are not coronaviruses.
The idea that flu cases are low because they have been rediagnosed as coronavirus is completely disingenuous, and easily refuted by looking at countries where there have been low cases of Covid-19. It’s an easy trap to fall into, and I can understand why people do, but it’s false. The reason flu cases are down is because people are wearing masks and social distancing, etc. It is not because flu is being mis-diagnosed as COVID-19. If you don’t believe me, then look at NZ which has had the one of the best responses to COVID-19, one of the lowest death rates from it - AND hardly any flu cases compared to a normal year. In the UK, I have seen people make the same assumption (misdiagnosis), because the UK has a huge amount of COVID-19 cases, but very few flu cases. It is easy to see, therefore, why some people assume this is because flu cases are being misdiagnosed as COVID-19. BUT If that were the case, then you would not expect to see the same extreme decrease in flu cases in NZ, where they aren’t likely to be misdiagnosed as COVID-19, simply because there’s not much of it in NZ. Basically, you can take any country in the world, and regardless of whether they have a lot or only very few COVID-19 cases, there is a notable reduction in flu cases. Also, before anyone wants to call me out, my own medical credentials (or lack thereof) are irrelevant, and I’m not the one in the hospitals that has to determine whether a patient is suffering from flu or COVID-19. And I’m quite happy to believe that the doctors know what they are diagnosing. Basically, in countries with both large amounts of COVID-19, and in countries with low amounts of COVID-19, there has been the same reduction in flu cases. This simply wouldn’t happen if flu were being misdiagnosed as COVID-19 on a grand scale. You’re free to call BS if you like. I’m not trying to change your mind - just stating reported facts. What you choose to do with them is up to you. 🤷🏻♂️ |
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Cboi Sandlin
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Exactly, and it's the same thing with the mask issue, or any issue related to COVID. The CDC and WHO (both GOVERNMENT run organizations) may say that masks work, but there are many real doctors and scientists with PHD's and all the fancy degrees who say the opposite. The only thing is that the media and the government likes to put the spotlight on those who agree with their agenda, and they also like to shame those people saying "You dont care about saving lives". which makes me think that there is some sort of corruption going on in this whole thing.
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Cboi Sandlin
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Okay, so tell me, if masks work at all, then when the mask mandate here in Texas was lifted, you would have expected the COVID cases to skyrocket, but that didn't happen, the cases are actually going down.
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Yep, you're just stating reported facts, not real ones. I don't usually respond in these threads because it opens up a huge can of worms. Let me just say that everything that is being reported as a fact isn't really a fact at all. There is a consensus among naturopaths and scientists not indoctrinated into the cult of the AMA that is basically controlled by the interests of the Council of Foreign Relations (understanding the history of neo-fascism is key to understanding why all of this nonsense is being touted as facts). And that consensus IS that viruses are not what we are taught. The word VIRUS is derived from Latin which means POISON. Antoine Bechamp and similarly minded scientists proved all the way back in the 1800s that viruses are not infectious agents that cause disease but rather symptoms of cellular breakdown due to the releases of exosomes caused by toxicity. Therefore viruses are an OUTFECTION not an INFECTION. That means viruses are an expression of cellular poisoning. Bechamp (father of the terrain theory) was a bitter rival of Louis Pasteur who is known as the father of germ theory. Pasteur was basically nurtured by the global bankers to craft a medical paradigm upon which a medical empire could be built around. Think this is all crazy? Check out this new video with Dr. Stefan Lanka, one of Germany's most prestigious scientists. He successfully proved that the measles virus doesn't exist and took it all the way to Germany's top court and won. The fact is that NO virus has been proven to exist. What causes what we perceive as viruses results from a complex coctail of mass poisoning. There is more than enough evidence that polio outbreaks for example were triggered by the use of DDT. This video rambles a bit and if you can get past the heavy German accent, it is quite revealing. Keep in mind that this is the man who PROVED the measles virus has never been proven to exist and upheld by the highest court of the land. Believe it or not, much of what is taught to us as FACT is nothing more than a theory that someone has constructed an industry around. It's thankfully starting to crack. BTW this is just one mere example. Did you know the CDC is a corporation that exists only to sell vaccines? |
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The Dark Elf
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What a rambling bunch of goofy, conspiracy-laden nonsense. I'll just wade through the muck and select 2 items: First, DDT did not cause polio. Polio and polio outbreaks occurred long before the widespread use of DDT after WWII. In fact, DDT was used as a deterrent for polio and polio outbreaks; unfortunately, the chemical caused a whole host of other damaging issues: " The pesticide was deployed against polio for the better part of a decade despite negative scientific findings concerning its effectiveness." Second, in regard to the word "virus" as meaning "poison". Virus, late Middle English (denoting the venom of a snake): from Latin, literally ‘slimy liquid, poison’. The earlier medical sense, superseded by the current use as a result of improved scientific understanding, was ‘a substance produced in the body as the result of disease, especially one capable of infecting others’. The meaning "agent that causes infectious disease" emerged by 1790s gradually out of the earlier use in reference to venereal disease (by 1728); the modern scientific use dates to the 1880s. So, using the etymological change in a word to somehow bolster an asinine conspiracy theory is rendered utterly useless if said change originated 2 centuries ago. |
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Re Cboi Sandlin "Okay, so tell me, if masks work at all, then when the mask mandate here in Texas was lifted, you would have expected the COVID cases to skyrocket, but that didn't happen, the cases are actually going down."
The trouble with this statement is that you are assuming that all Texans quit wearing masks, which of course is not true. Most Texans who care about keeping those around them safe are still wearing masks. I used to live in Texas and still have lots of family and friends there who tell me what is going on. Sure there are some rednecks, sociopaths and other dimwits not wearing masks, but also a lot of educated types who are. |
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Cboi Sandlin
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Now you can call the non mask wearers whatever mean names you want to, the fact is that there is a lot of them here in Texas, and the virus isn't spreading like crazy here. Why? Because masks dont work. FACTS! But if you want to ignore science and listen to what the politicians (Fauci has basically turned into a politician now) and CNN tell you, that is fine with me. Just dont call me a sociopath because i dont buy it.
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^ I didn't say you were a sociopath, show me where I said that.
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Cboi Sandlin
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Okay, now i was agreeing with you up until now. Virus' are real and COVID is real, it's just exagerated. I'm pretty sure that's just a conspiracy theory.
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