Political discussion thread

Slartibartfast wrote: Someone needs to glue his mouth shut with Gorilla Glue.

If only. But really, where did he come from? Last name I thought I'd hear

OH! And I went to that Obama rally yesterday. I got "overflow" section so I had to watch on screens
If I knew that I would not have driven there and watched it on TV......
I mean I knew I would be far but I wanted to at least say I SAW him and maybe get a picture.
Ah well, I heard his voice at least. And it was the voice of the heavens

Henry Plainview wrote: This makes me so angry.

Henry Plainview wrote: This makes me so angry. The President, the Secretary of Defense, and the Pentagon all think that building more F-22s is stupid since a war with China is unlikely, but Congress is adding back in 2 billion dollars for them because they represent states with airplane manufacturing facilities! And I believe that the military's stated goal is to increase jobs. While I think everyone here already hates Sen Chambliss, the WSJ article didn't mention that Rep Murtha added in 370 million for them in the House version of the bill, so I guess they're all guilty.

""The F-22, to be blunt, does not make much sense anyplace else in the spectrum of conflict," Gates said. "Nonetheless, supporters of the F-22 lately have promoted its use for an ever expanding list of potential missions. These range from protecting the homeland from seaborne cruise missiles to, as one retired general recommended on TV, using F-22s to go after Somali pirates who in many cases are teenagers with AK-47s – a job we already know is better done at much less cost by three Navy SEALs. These are examples of how far-fetched some of the arguments have become for a program that has cost $65 billion – and counting – to produce 187 aircraft, not to mention the thousands of uniformed Air Force positions that were sacrificed to help pay for it."

Source

Keep in mind that those planes cost a f**kton to service and repair. I think it was that for every hour the fighter is in the air, it needs about 100 hours of service.

Murtha would.....that guy has a good reputation but he is the epitome of a political player.
Of course he is beloved since he brings so much money into his district.

It's all about whats best for me....

Slartibartfast wrote: Henry Plainview wrote: This makes me so angry. The President, the Secretary of Defense, and the Pentagon all think that building more F-22s is stupid since a war with China is unlikely, but Congress is adding back in 2 billion dollars for them because they represent states with airplane manufacturing facilities! And I believe that the military's stated goal is to increase jobs. While I think everyone here already hates Sen Chambliss, the WSJ article didn't mention that Rep Murtha added in 370 million for them in the House version of the bill, so I guess they're all guilty. Hey, I bet the Chinese could build them for us much cheaper.

^^^ perfect!!!

Why do I get the feeling this could actually happen?


Edited by Slartibartfast - July 17 2009 at 18:31

crimhead wrote: Slartibartfast wrote: ^^^ perfect!!! Why do I get the feeling this could actually happen? Because those in power have no problem with a NWO it seems. Reps/Dems = one party these days.

If we're talking "these days" we are already talking about a large number of days.  I will give the Dems credit for being marginally better.

JJLehto wrote: Ah, I've been waiting for when Bama and the Dems will finally start falling apart. They held together fairly well, but with this health care fiasco and now this... Speaking of which, Bama is supposed to talk about healthcare in literally minutes, wonder what he's got up his sleeve, esp since the CBO has said the plan will cost way more than originally anticipated.....hmm.....

Speaking of which, the House's health care plan would make private medical insurance illegal. To quote the paragraph that discusses it...

"Except as provided in this paragraph, the individual health insurance issuer offering such coverage does not enroll any individual in such coverage if the first effective date of coverage is on or after the first day" of the year the legislation becomes law.

Such action would mean about 120 million Americans would suddenly find themselves without insurance plans because their companies would no doubt get rid of them and switch over to government ones. Gotta love how they don't think we should have a choice of where we get our health insurance. And given what happened in the past when the government competed with private companies, I think we all know where that would end up.

I really doubt that they're going to outlaw private health insurance, that's ridiculous.

Edited by IVNORD - July 17 2009 at 20:45