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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2008 at 03:41
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

It's the worlds biggest marketting con that over 75% of households in the UK have fallen for hook, line and sinker. Why? Would somebody please explain...


Simple Dean - because they've been told it's bad for them; your average denizen of the wobbling class would like not to have to buy their grey cheapo leggings in size 24, so they therefore believe the red-top tabloids & anyone on tv in a white coat (which by its being worn bestowes an air of medical authority) when they tell them all fat is bad - therefore full fat milk is bad - as opposed to McDonalds burgers, which are grilled, therefore "good" for you & pizzas, which are "hand made & oven baked", which are virtually health food by comparison.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2008 at 04:00
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And I loved it as a kid - my aunt was the only one we knew who got it & I looked on it as a treat when we visited her. I certainly cannot remember semit skimmed/skimmed milk as a kid, it was always red-top in bottles.

Originally posted by Wilcey Wilcey wrote:

Cream is yummy poured on things, but not in my tea thank you very much!


No no no, never tea! Coffee, however...

Which reminds me, I was at a local coffee shop place thing, and having gotten what had the potential to be an excellent cup of strong coffee (good price, too), found out there was no cream, but only 2% and skim milk. There wasn't even any powdered creamer in little pouches. I wanted to ask them if they had any more cream, but lo and behold, the place which had been next to dead 5 minutes ago turned into a veritable Starbucks, and I didn't want to overtax the workers. So, I tried in vain to prepare my cup to an acceptable level with tons of sugar and added what had to be at least 10% of the fatter milk. Blech. Not awful, but certainly worse than any cup with cream.

I can only imagine what a cup with skim milk would taste like. Ughhhh.

What kind of person wants these things in coffee?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2008 at 12:26
Update re this:


Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

I've been paying £55 per month to my gas supplier; they recently read my meter & the new statement confirmed that gas usage vs payments came to a balance of £0.09 - perfect - I'm paying exactly what I need to.

Not so.

The thieving s now want to increase my monthly payment from £55 to £96; an increase of over 61% - this in the face of industry wide opinion that the retail cost of gas per unit is to fall sharply over the next 6 months - I say again: THIEVING s!

How many people don't even look at their gas statements & just carry on paying? How many people are these s ripping off across the country?



Suffice to say, a sternly worded missive has been sent



Did I mention my opinion that I'm being supplied by a bunch of money grabbing, thieving s ?


After getting no response whatsoever to my letter/e-mail, I summoned up the courage & sat through 15 hours of automated menus to speak to a 'real person' (I use the phrase advisedly), only to be told "sorry, we did the calculations wrong, it should only increase by £3.00 per month, not £37.00"



How many people actually check what these shysters are charging them?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2008 at 15:41
Originally posted by Wilcey Wilcey wrote:

we only ever drink red topped skimmed milk here. Embarrassed   it's not about the fat, it's about er, taste. We prefer it in hot drinks.

Cream is yummy poured on things, but not in my tea thankyou very much!
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2008 at 22:56
I'd like to rant about having blood taken, it's a horrible experience every single time. I was cursed with tiny veins apparently, as they have to use the infant needle every time. Then the blood flows very slowly, if at all. I've been having to give a lot lately and my arms are starting to look like that of a heroin addicts...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2008 at 22:59
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:


After getting no response whatsoever to my letter/e-mail, I summoned up the courage & sat through 15 hours of automated menus to speak to a 'real person' (I use the phrase advisedly), only to be told "sorry, we did the calculations wrong, it should only increase by £3.00 per month, not £37.00"



How many people actually check what these shysters are charging them?


More bizarre that the price increase you stated before was 41 quid not 37 LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2008 at 03:22
Damn you and your accuracy, Pat - re-checked the statements & for the sake of accuracy & it was to go from £59 to £96, not £55 to £96; I apologise for any incontinence caused.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 20 2008 at 13:40
It is interesting to see how well that Rush has done against the other rock giants in all those Rush polls that are currently circulating.  These polls really make me cringe because I really get sick and tired of all of the Rush haters that continuously post their same "I hate Rush" posts in every thread where even the hint of Rush shows up.  "What's that?  You're from Canada.  We'll I hate Rush.  They suck and are totally unoriginal.  Neil Peart couldn't beat his way out of a paper bag.  Geddy Lee sings like he has his balls in a vice, and he plays his bass and keyboards as though he was playing with his balls which would also explain his high voice.  And Alex, well Alex plays like he is also using Geddy's balls". 
 
I honestly don't care if people hate Rush.  Everyone has their own tastes.  In my point of view, that is your loss, but hey whatever.  I honestly could care less if I were the only person on PA that liked Rush.  I am glad that I am not the only one, and that I have my compatriots out there. (You know who you are and who you aren't Wink).  And although this rant is about Rush, it applies to all bands. 
 
I suppose that I am pretty easy to please.  I have had mostly good luck with finding bands that I enjoy here on PA.  There are a few that I have tried that I don't like, but I don't go into every Censored thread that might remotely concern that band and talk smack about them.  I am pretty certain that I have posted enough posts within this forum regarding bands that I don't like (at least not yet), that many of you could create the list, as well as, if not better than I could.  But I would say that at least 99% of the time I have talked of these bands that I don't like in a non-insulting way.  So I guess that is my rant.  Why is it so difficult for PAers to play nice with each other? 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 20 2008 at 13:48
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Damn you and your accuracy, Pat - re-checked the statements & for the sake of accuracy & it was to go from £59 to £96, not £55 to £96; I apologise for any incontinence caused.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 20 2008 at 13:54
Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Damn you and your accuracy, Pat - re-checked the statements & for the sake of accuracy & it was to go from £59 to £96, not £55 to £96; I apologise for any incontinence caused.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 20 2008 at 13:57
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Damn you and your accuracy, Pat - re-checked the statements & for the sake of accuracy & it was to go from £59 to £96, not £55 to £96; I apologise for any incontinence caused.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 20 2008 at 13:58
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

It is interesting to see how well that Rush has done against the other rock giants in all those Rush polls that are currently circulating.  These polls really make me cringe because I really get sick and tired of all of the Rush haters that continuously post their same "I hate Rush" posts in every thread where even the hint of Rush shows up.  "What's that?  You're from Canada.  We'll I hate Rush.  They suck and are totally unoriginal.  Neil Peart couldn't beat his way out of a paper bag.  Geddy Lee sings like he has his balls in a vice, and he plays his bass and keyboards as though he was playing with his balls which would also explain his high voice.  And Alex, well Alex plays like he is also using Geddy's balls". 
 
I honestly don't care if people hate Rush.  Everyone has their own tastes.  In my point of view, that is your loss, but hey whatever.  I honestly could care less if I were the only person on PA that liked Rush.  I am glad that I am not the only one, and that I have my compatriots out there. (You know who you are and who you aren't Wink).  And although this rant is about Rush, it applies to all bands. 
 
I suppose that I am pretty easy to please.  I have had mostly good luck with finding bands that I enjoy here on PA.  There are a few that I have tried that I don't like, but I don't go into every Censored thread that might remotely concern that band and talk smack about them.  I am pretty certain that I have posted enough posts within this forum regarding bands that I don't like (at least not yet), that many of you could create the list, as well as, if not better than I could.  But I would say that at least 99% of the time I have talked of these bands that I don't like in a non-insulting way.  So I guess that is my rant.  Why is it so difficult for PAers to play nice with each other? 
Clap It does appear that a few people define themselves by what they don't like, rather than by what they do. The list ever grows (Dream Theater, ELP, Pink Floyd Cry, Rush - it looks like Opeth and Porcupine Tree are heading for a the backlash list too)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 20 2008 at 14:05
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

It is interesting to see how well that Rush has done against the other rock giants in all those Rush polls that are currently circulating.  These polls really make me cringe because I really get sick and tired of all of the Rush haters that continuously post their same "I hate Rush" posts in every thread where even the hint of Rush shows up.  "What's that?  You're from Canada.  We'll I hate Rush.  They suck and are totally unoriginal.  Neil Peart couldn't beat his way out of a paper bag.  Geddy Lee sings like he has his balls in a vice, and he plays his bass and keyboards as though he was playing with his balls which would also explain his high voice.  And Alex, well Alex plays like he is also using Geddy's balls". 
 
I honestly don't care if people hate Rush.  Everyone has their own tastes.  In my point of view, that is your loss, but hey whatever.  I honestly could care less if I were the only person on PA that liked Rush.  I am glad that I am not the only one, and that I have my compatriots out there. (You know who you are and who you aren't Wink).  And although this rant is about Rush, it applies to all bands. 
 
I suppose that I am pretty easy to please.  I have had mostly good luck with finding bands that I enjoy here on PA.  There are a few that I have tried that I don't like, but I don't go into every Censored thread that might remotely concern that band and talk smack about them.  I am pretty certain that I have posted enough posts within this forum regarding bands that I don't like (at least not yet), that many of you could create the list, as well as, if not better than I could.  But I would say that at least 99% of the time I have talked of these bands that I don't like in a non-insulting way.  So I guess that is my rant.  Why is it so difficult for PAers to play nice with each other? 
Clap It does appear that a few people define themselves by what they don't like, rather than by what they do. The list ever grows (Dream Theater, ELP, Pink Floyd Cry, Rush - it looks like Opeth and Porcupine Tree are heading for a the backlash list too)


That's why you have to go the avant route - can't bash what you've never heard of in the first place.  Wink

That said, it seems like the prog poll insanity is cyclical - every so often we have a slate of ridiculous polls usually involving one band which is often set up so that the naysayers can come out and flame away - just a little while ago I thought we were actually getting some interesting poll questions, but now we're back into the regime of the boring, IMO.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 20 2008 at 14:17
Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

It is interesting to see how well that Rush has done against the other rock giants in all those Rush polls that are currently circulating.  These polls really make me cringe because I really get sick and tired of all of the Rush haters that continuously post their same "I hate Rush" posts in every thread where even the hint of Rush shows up.  "What's that?  You're from Canada.  We'll I hate Rush.  They suck and are totally unoriginal.  Neil Peart couldn't beat his way out of a paper bag.  Geddy Lee sings like he has his balls in a vice, and he plays his bass and keyboards as though he was playing with his balls which would also explain his high voice.  And Alex, well Alex plays like he is also using Geddy's balls". 
 
I honestly don't care if people hate Rush.  Everyone has their own tastes.  In my point of view, that is your loss, but hey whatever.  I honestly could care less if I were the only person on PA that liked Rush.  I am glad that I am not the only one, and that I have my compatriots out there. (You know who you are and who you aren't Wink).  And although this rant is about Rush, it applies to all bands. 
 
I suppose that I am pretty easy to please.  I have had mostly good luck with finding bands that I enjoy here on PA.  There are a few that I have tried that I don't like, but I don't go into every Censored thread that might remotely concern that band and talk smack about them.  I am pretty certain that I have posted enough posts within this forum regarding bands that I don't like (at least not yet), that many of you could create the list, as well as, if not better than I could.  But I would say that at least 99% of the time I have talked of these bands that I don't like in a non-insulting way.  So I guess that is my rant.  Why is it so difficult for PAers to play nice with each other? 
Clap It does appear that a few people define themselves by what they don't like, rather than by what they do. The list ever grows (Dream Theater, ELP, Pink Floyd Cry, Rush - it looks like Opeth and Porcupine Tree are heading for a the backlash list too)


That's why you have to go the avant route - can't bash what you've never heard of in the first place.  Wink

That said, it seems like the prog poll insanity is cyclical - every so often we have a slate of ridiculous polls usually involving one band which is often set up so that the naysayers can come out and flame away - just a little while ago I thought we were actually getting some interesting poll questions, but now we're back into the regime of the boring, IMO.
 
Or maybe it is best that I avoid avant altogether, because "you can't bash what you've never heard in the first place".  I have heard some decent music in the avant category and I'm not closed-minded about avant/RIO.  I certainly don't begrudge anybody for listening to RIO/Avant.  At this point it is not my thing.  I just haven't grown tired of all of the so-called "retro" bands or "non-progressive" prog bands yet.  Maybe someday I will, but after 20+ years, I kind of doubt it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 21 2008 at 02:23
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Why is it so difficult for PAers to play nice with each other?

Clap It does appear that a few people define themselves by what they don't like, rather than by what they do... it looks like Porcupine Tree are heading for the backlash list too


That is until Steve Wilson re-joins the forum (could be quite soon, as he's just released a solo album ), when all of a sudden everyone loves Porcupine Tree

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 21 2008 at 02:49
Originally posted by Sunny In Jeddah Sunny In Jeddah wrote:

I'd like to rant about having blood taken, it's a horrible experience every single time. I was cursed with tiny veins apparently, as they have to use the infant needle every time. Then the blood flows very slowly, if at all. I've been having to give a lot lately and my arms are starting to look like that of a heroin addicts...


Needles, urgh............... I know that sounds wimpy, but I'm scared of them.

I never used to be though.
I've had vaccinations over the years, and many times, the needles never bothered one bit.
But last time I had to get a blood sample in February this year, the nurse managed to somehow not even get the needle into the vein, and when the needle came out, god, it hurt like hell, I seriously had never felt that much pain from a needle being removed from my arm before.
And she still had to insert the needle again to find a vein.
And when she took it out again, it hurt even worse, and by the end of it, I was literally shaking.
I hope this fear doesn't stay with me, since it seems odd to have just developed it this year.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 21 2008 at 04:13
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

It is interesting to see how well that Rush has done against the other rock giants in all those Rush polls that are currently circulating.  These polls really make me cringe because I really get sick and tired of all of the Rush haters that continuously post their same "I hate Rush" posts in every thread where even the hint of Rush shows up.  "What's that?  You're from Canada.  We'll I hate Rush.  They suck and are totally unoriginal.  Neil Peart couldn't beat his way out of a paper bag.  Geddy Lee sings like he has his balls in a vice, and he plays his bass and keyboards as though he was playing with his balls which would also explain his high voice.  And Alex, well Alex plays like he is also using Geddy's balls". 
 
I honestly don't care if people hate Rush.  Everyone has their own tastes.  In my point of view, that is your loss, but hey whatever.  I honestly could care less if I were the only person on PA that liked Rush.  I am glad that I am not the only one, and that I have my compatriots out there. (You know who you are and who you aren't Wink).  And although this rant is about Rush, it applies to all bands. 
 
I suppose that I am pretty easy to please.  I have had mostly good luck with finding bands that I enjoy here on PA.  There are a few that I have tried that I don't like, but I don't go into every Censored thread that might remotely concern that band and talk smack about them.  I am pretty certain that I have posted enough posts within this forum regarding bands that I don't like (at least not yet), that many of you could create the list, as well as, if not better than I could.  But I would say that at least 99% of the time I have talked of these bands that I don't like in a non-insulting way.  So I guess that is my rant.  Why is it so difficult for PAers to play nice with each other? 
Clap It does appear that a few people define themselves by what they don't like, rather than by what they do. The list ever grows (Dream Theater, ELP, Pink Floyd Cry, Rush - it looks like Opeth and Porcupine Tree are heading for a the backlash list too)
 
 
Bands seem to be like bubbles - they get bigger and bigger (through their own hard work and merit) then go *pop* -  they're yesterdays papers (this whole site is largely about yesterdays papers, but they are too good to forget and continue to be discovered by new generations of fans ) If i like a band and add them to my "list" they are "mine" for life.  i hope PT and Opeth don't come under any sort of "backlash" as both these bright stars, are still in their ascendancy and promise greater things! Clap
 
 
 
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 21 2008 at 04:40
I totally understand your frustration Scott, however, I have learnt that "hate" tends to be "envy" in a different disguise and when I see a negative comment I just laugh to myself and ingore their knaivety because I now know what they really mean!
 
I find the whole thing somewhat peculiar in a way as we all follow a minority art form and you would think that fans would be more supportive of the genre as a whole.  shocked smiley #9449
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 15 2008 at 03:19
^^^ Ok, I'm assuming that you were having a discussion on PA(?) People can be over sensitive, of course, but more often than not, things get misenterpreted, especially over international boundaries. Someone made a complaint about a Brian Eno review I once wrote, where I claimed Eno was 'taking the steaming p!ss' This was deemed very offensive by someone in South America ( I think) and I was politely asked to edit the review accordingly, which I did.

Also, it's wise not to blur the boundaries between honesty and diplomacy. In this 'over sensitive' world it will get you nowhere, I promise you. I've tried it. I know...
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