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Points: 8052 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 11 2009 at 04:25
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Three albums.


So, once we've gone through those four, move onto Hammill solo?

(says the man with, I've worked it out, 17 of his solo albums, if we're counting The Margin + as one)
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I think I made over 10 posts today, damn it. I'm supposed to limit myself to 10 posts a day.
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And you know what's another album that nobody talks about? Big Generator. Did you know that Easy Livin gave it 4 stars?
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Points: 89372 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 11 2009 at 04:37
Originally posted by TGM: Orb TGM: Orb wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

Three albums.


So, once we've gone through those four, move onto Hammill solo?

(says the man with, I've worked it out, 17 of his solo albums, if we're counting The Margin + as one)


I have about 25 albums (including some live ones) by Hammill.  Ouch!

So, how do you like Veracious?  I really love it.  Some of the best Hammill vocal performances I've ever heard.

Sublime.
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Henry, would The Boredoms Strike Back be a better title?
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24147 [47.91 posts per day]


Damn it James, you're beating me in the "who has less and consequently less embarrassing" post per day thing.
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Points: 8052 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 11 2009 at 04:43
Originally posted by James James wrote:

Originally posted by TGM: Orb TGM: Orb wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

Three albums.


So, once we've gone through those four, move onto Hammill solo?

(says the man with, I've worked it out, 17 of his solo albums, if we're counting The Margin + as one)


I have about 25 albums (including some live ones) by Hammill.  Ouch!

So, how do you like Veracious?  I really love it.  Some of the best Hammill vocal performances I've ever heard.

Sublime.


Veracious is very good... I think Hammill there is maybe not as flexible with his vocals as he has been on some of his older live stuff, and the aggressive Hammill of the Skeletons Of Songs sort of thing is my pick. I'm afraid I don't know many of the studio versions of the material on that one. Stuart Gordon is great, though, the selection's good, and Hammill's vocals would be exceptional for anyone but him, as would the selection. Still, great stuff, I'd certainly give it at the very least a three and very probably a four.

Coincidentally, And Close As This has some of his best vocals I can think of.
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Originally posted by Petrovsk Mizinski Petrovsk Mizinski wrote:

24147 [47.91 posts per day]


Damn it James, you're beating me in the "who has less and consequently less embarrassing" post per day thing.


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heck, I seem to be going over 10. That's quite depressing, I shouldn't argue with Ivan.
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Well, if boredom is striking, maybe you'll be entertained by this:
 
 
 
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Hmm, apparently French Eurovision popster Sébastian Tellier is rumoured to be a son of someone from Magma.  However, I've tried to find this out and it never mentions who.  Just that his father was in Magma.

I don't know of anyone with the surname Tellier who was in Magma.  So I presume Tellier is not Sébastian's real surname.

Re: Veracious

I don't know a lot of the material either but that does not take anything away from me loving these versions.  Like Veronica is on an '80s release so I doubt it's as good as that live version.

I'd give it 5/5 without hesitation.  It's amazing.

I don't think I have And Close As This... weird.  I thought I did.  It maybe the one that the remaster is screwed up on; hence why I don't have it.


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Yep, And Close As This has been suspended on Sofa Sound because the sonic quality of the remaster was screwed.  So it's been withdrawn.

I'm still hoping this will get sorted out soon...


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I've just worked out what some of M.D.K. means...

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Originally posted by James James wrote:

Re: Veracious

I don't know a lot of the material either but that does not take anything away from me loving these versions.  Like Veronica is on an '80s release so I doubt it's as good as that live version.

I'd give it 5/5 without hesitation.  It's amazing.

I don't think I have And Close As This... weird.  I thought I did.  It maybe the one that the remaster is screwed up on; hence why I don't have it.


I think knowing the original material often gives you a much better appreciation of where the strengths and weaknesses of the live take are, and also how the song has changed with the performance... sometimes, I think, it's hard to fully appreciate what someone's achieving with a live track without knowing how it compares to the studio. That's my comment. I'll give it another listen later today, though.

Plus, the 80s releases are great fun (Sitting Targets Heart... dance/rock on)

Anyway, I'm not too picky about production, have to admit ACAT could be much clearer in terms of production, but it's not unlistenable, and I tend to focus on content first, effects later.
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Points: 89372 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 11 2009 at 07:02
Well I think the live versions are often closer to the artists true vision.

Of course, it's just Hammill and Gordon but it's more raw due to that.

Easy to Slip Away is amazing and that's one I have heard in album form.


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10cc = possibly the best pop band ever.
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Points: 89372 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 11 2009 at 07:24
I've seen them live sans Godley and Creme.
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Originally posted by James James wrote:

I've seen them live sans Godley and Creme.


have some points.

Anyway, I'm off for the day, don't want my post count to get out of hand.
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Points: 31169 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 11 2009 at 08:43
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

And you know what's another album that nobody talks about? Big Generator. Did you know that Easy Livin gave it 4 stars?


I'm a Yes fanboy, but that album is absolutely dreadful.  Four stars, eh?  Well, to each his own, I guess.  * shrugs *
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Points: 89372 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 11 2009 at 08:53
Originally posted by TGM: Orb TGM: Orb wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

I've seen them live sans Godley and Creme.


have some points.

Anyway, I'm off for the day, don't want my post count to get out of hand.


I'd rather not have points for seeing 10cc. LOL
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