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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2010 at 19:38
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What is a race? Geek

If you live in the southeast USA you'd know that race is NASCAR: LOL

NASCAR.COM - News, Schedule, Drivers, Tracks, Fantasy & Video from ...


Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2010 at 19:40
They got NASCAR in the northeast ya know
Not that I used to watch or still do on occasion, nope
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2010 at 21:02
Ok, time for my questions to libertarians all around the globe...

What about education? Should the government help those who have the talent yet not the funds? Should there be public education? Do you think something like financial adi could exist in an all-private world? Should education also be something only people who can pay for it should have access to?

Do you love my questions?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2010 at 21:12
Not as much as mine LOL
Education is something I feel pretty strongly in.
In my younger, more extreme days, I used to support a public "secondary" education.
So basically a publicly funded university system, just like K-12.

I now look back on that idea and laugh a bit.
Wait, are you talking about secondary or primary?
I know some countries, (I think Germany is one) where they have work/school programs. Like you can work for BMW lets say, and get an education while doing so. I think thats pretty cool, for some that maybe can't afford school.




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2010 at 21:15
The only death I have ever literally mourned is Milton Friedman's.

I think Rob is right in that it makes more sense to care about someone directly helping you than someone who has no affect on your life.

I think Equality is correct in that construction workers provide a service to society just as much as policemen do.

I think (in reference to the T's question) that there should be no public education and especially no mandatory education.

These are just a few of the things I think.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2010 at 21:18
The death you've mourned EVER, or outside those directly affecting you?
Because if you've never mourned anyone close to you, but still Milton Friedman than you are dedicated LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2010 at 21:26
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

The death you've mourned EVER, or outside those directly affecting you?
Because if you've never mourned anyone close to you, but still Milton Friedman than you are dedicated LOL


No close family members or friends of mine have died yet.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2010 at 21:40
Well that's good to hear


I dont know much about it...but didn't Friedman propose a negative income tax, as a replacement for all welfare?
It sounded intriguing, and would result in some people getting money without ever having to work.
Shocked Milton Friedman was a socialist! LOL

Don't hurt me...


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2010 at 21:42
Maybe his name is Llama Friedman .

A better educated people is a freer people. A people without educations is destined to be somebody's slave.

I think education till what in America is the twelfth grade should be mandatory and the goverment provide it for thise who can't afford private one. College and beyond should also be a mixture of options, just as it is now.

What has to improve is the level of high school education here in the States. I am an example: barely even studying, I got an associate degree's with staight A's. I had seen it all long ago. Getting the BA has been slightly more difficult really. It's said graduate education like MD and up is excellent here in the US. I hope I soon find out. It's obvious that the best schools are great, but is it so the average?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2010 at 21:44
Bah humbug. I didn't attend a single day of school until college, made straight A's and am now well into my master's in economics. If I can do it, given how lazy I am, then anyone can.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2010 at 21:47
I sure hope so! I'm pretty damn lazy and nearing the end of my bachelors, hope I didnt screw up too badly. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2010 at 22:01
Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Bah humbug. I didn't attend a single day of school until college, made straight A's and am now well into my master's in economics. If I can do it, given how lazy I am, then anyone can.
Home schooled?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2010 at 22:41
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:



A better educated people is a freer people. A people without educations is destined to be somebody's slave.


A people educated by the state will be a slave to the state.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2010 at 22:45
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Bah humbug. I didn't attend a single day of school until college, made straight A's and am now well into my master's in economics. If I can do it, given how lazy I am, then anyone can.
Home schooled?


Yes, sir.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2010 at 22:57
Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:


Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Bah humbug. I didn't attend a single day of school until college, made straight A's and am now well into my master's in economics. If I can do it, given how lazy I am, then anyone can.
Home schooled?
Yes, sir.
I have never really understood that concept. Is very alien to me. Who taught you things? What were you taught? How do you learn about things that would escape your parents (or whoever schooled you)'s knowledge?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2010 at 22:59
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:



Originally posted by The T The T wrote:


A better educated people is a freer people. A people without educations is destined to be somebody's slave.

A people educated by the state will be a slave to the state.
By that logic, a people educated by organizations for profit would become their slave...

Helping with funding and providing of education doesn't mean the state is actually the teacher.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2010 at 23:04
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:



Originally posted by The T The T wrote:


A better educated people is a freer people. A people without educations is destined to be somebody's slave.

A people educated by the state will be a slave to the state.
By that logic, a people educated by organizations for profit would become their slave...

Helping with funding and providing of education doesn't mean the state is actually the teacher.


Heard much about the NEA?

I was both a student and a teacher here in the US.  The government manipulates children.  Granted some private schools do as well, but in those cases it's up to the parent to make a decision at least.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2010 at 23:05
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:


Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Bah humbug. I didn't attend a single day of school until college, made straight A's and am now well into my master's in economics. If I can do it, given how lazy I am, then anyone can.
Home schooled?
Yes, sir.
I have never really understood that concept. Is very alien to me. Who taught you things? What were you taught? How do you learn about things that would escape your parents (or whoever schooled you)'s knowledge?


My wife and I are strongly considering homeschooling our children.  I know a thing or two.  So does my wife.  We also have the Internet.  And books.  And hour-long lunches!  Big smile

I think we'll do fine.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2010 at 23:08
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:


Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Bah humbug. I didn't attend a single day of school until college, made straight A's and am now well into my master's in economics. If I can do it, given how lazy I am, then anyone can.
Home schooled?
Yes, sir.
I have never really understood that concept. Is very alien to me. Who taught you things? What were you taught? How do you learn about things that would escape your parents (or whoever schooled you)'s knowledge?


There are several different methods of homeschooling. The method I experienced is known as "unschooling" and it has generally been very hard to explain to people.

Basically, no one taught me anything. My parents encouraged my interests, and if I wanted to learn something, they got me a book on it and said "if you have any questions, let me know and I'll try to help." I studied what I wanted to and when I was a teenager my parents explained what was required to go to college. "If you want to do well on the SAT, you'll need to study X, Y and Z." I wanted to go to college, so I studied those things. If I was learning something my parents had no knowledge of, and had trouble with it, they would read the book and explain it to me. I had a keen interest in reading, languages and I was pretty good at math. My sister was schooled in the same method, and had completely opposite interests. She started reading very late, and hated math. If she had been in school, she would have had a very hard time. Now she has just finished her thesis for a Master's degree in art education. I am a strong advocate of this system.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2010 at 23:10
My goal is to eventually become a teacher, er I guess I should say professor.
I hope to one of the good ones that actually teach and encourage learning
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And llama that is an interesting idea. Maybe not for all, but I think my brother could've personally benefited greatly from something like that.


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