Suede Room 4: The Bassoon Hero Lounge

Mikerinos wrote: I'll probably play all my stuff anyway and see what happens.

Might get scolded by some mini-dictator or whoever runs the place because they're on one of those worthless power trips.  Unless you already think everyone involved is chill enough to not care.

NaturalScience wrote: Mikerinos wrote: I'll probably play all my stuff anyway and see what happens. Might get scolded by some mini-dictator or whoever runs the place because they're on one of those worthless power trips.  Unless you already think everyone involved is chill enough to not care.

Yeah but they have no power.  If they kick me out I can start my own pirate radio station and play crazy music all the time and talk about drugs and stuff.

MovingPictures07 wrote: Mikerinos wrote: James wrote: Mikerinos wrote: James wrote: Gosh, I'd turn that down... seriously.  50% of their own music is blasphemous, even if you can play your own music... I'd rather die than be forced to play Nickelback songs... I concur, but it goes by songs so I can play a lot of epics of mine and short ass songs of theirs.  They had some folk and good indie, so it isn't THAT bad.  I'll probably play all my stuff anyway and see what happens. But good indie doesn't exist. That's like listening to Rush, Kansas, ELP and Dream Theater and concluding prog rock sucks. Those are four of the best prog bands.

Rush are okay, but totally not representative of prog.  Kansas, ELP, DT have some okay stuff but there is way better out there in my opinion.  Good indie is definitely better, although I prefer prog overall.

TGM: Orb wrote: ^ Rush are a prog band?! :p

They progressed from mediocre to pretty good and then back to mediocre. :P

Mikerinos wrote: NaturalScience wrote: Mikerinos wrote: I'll probably play all my stuff anyway and see what happens. Might get scolded by some mini-dictator or whoever runs the place because they're on one of those worthless power trips.  Unless you already think everyone involved is chill enough to not care. Yeah but they have no power.  If they kick me out I can start my own pirate radio station and play crazy music all the time and talk about drugs and stuff.

It just sucks that they can't just use you for the "progressive hour" or something - god forbid we go an hour or two playing stuff no one's heard of.

MovingPictures07 wrote: Mikerinos wrote: MovingPictures07 wrote: Mikerinos wrote: James wrote: Mikerinos wrote: James wrote: Gosh, I'd turn that down... seriously.  50% of their own music is blasphemous, even if you can play your own music... I'd rather die than be forced to play Nickelback songs... I concur, but it goes by songs so I can play a lot of epics of mine and short ass songs of theirs.  They had some folk and good indie, so it isn't THAT bad.  I'll probably play all my stuff anyway and see what happens. But good indie doesn't exist. That's like listening to Rush, Kansas, ELP and Dream Theater and concluding prog rock sucks. Those are four of the best prog bands. Rush are okay, but totally not representative of prog.  Kansas, ELP, DT have some okay stuff but there is way better out there in my opinion.  Good indie is definitely better, although I prefer prog overall. I disagree. Their impact particularly over in the Western Hemisphere was amazing, and they managed to continue being creative even during the 1980s without completely going pop. Kansas's first five albums similar to Rush. After that, not so much. ELP... not representative of prog? What are you smoking there? Dream Theater... pretty much THE prog metal band. Again... doesn't matter if you like them or not, but there is a reason for that.

Never said ELP aren't representative of prog, but I could say they aren't representative of good prog. ;)

and Rush is debatable.  Most of their albums and popular songs aren't really prog but you can say the same about Yes and Genesis I suppose.

I have quite a bit of Kansas on vinyl, it's okay but I never really considered them prog... and if they are then Deep Purple and Led Zeppelin are just as prog (and according to PA, almost everything is).

Dream Theater is musical masterbation lubed up guitar heroes on speed jacked up on drugs playing music that induces headaches, if that constitutes as prog for you then okay sure, fine.  It's all subjective anyway, and if you disagree then your subjectivity sucks (in my subjective view of my own subjectivity). :P

MovingPictures07 wrote: NaturalScience wrote: Mikerinos wrote: NaturalScience wrote: Mikerinos wrote: I'll probably play all my stuff anyway and see what happens. Might get scolded by some mini-dictator or whoever runs the place because they're on one of those worthless power trips.  Unless you already think everyone involved is chill enough to not care. Yeah but they have no power.  If they kick me out I can start my own pirate radio station and play crazy music all the time and talk about drugs and stuff. It just sucks that they can't just use you for the "progressive hour" or something - god forbid we go an hour or two playing stuff no one's heard of. I agree that it's completely ridiculous. Radio is a joke.

I might try talking to someone about it, since I don't play typical college stuff, metal, pop, hip hop, indie, etc. like everyone else.  I'm pretty persuasive somehow.  (FREEDOM OF REPRESENTIN KRAUTROCK, BITCHEZ!)

Mikerinos wrote: Never said ELP aren't representative of prog, but I could say they aren't representative of good prog. ;) and Rush is debatable.  Most of their albums and popular songs aren't really prog but you can say the same about Yes and Genesis I suppose. I have quite a bit of Kansas on vinyl, it's okay but I never really considered them prog... and if they are then Deep Purple and Led Zeppelin are just as prog (and according to PA, almost everything is). Dream Theater is musical masterbation lubed up guitar heroes on speed jacked up on drugs playing music that induces headaches, if that constitutes as prog for you then okay sure, fine.  It's all subjective anyway, and if you disagree then your subjectivity sucks (in my subjective view of my own subjectivity). :P

It almost sounds like you're suggesting that Yes and Genesis aren't prog bands to an extent. Am I reading too much into it?

Mikerinos wrote: Never said ELP aren't representative of prog, but I could say they aren't representative of good prog. ;) Listen to Tarkus or Karn Evil 9. and Rush is debatable.  Most of their albums and popular songs aren't really prog but you can say the same about Yes and Genesis I suppose. Rush's material was just as prog as Genesis's or Yes's, if not more. At least they never completely ignored making decent music (even Presto and Test for Echo aren't near as bad as Big Generator or Invisible Touch) and their impact upon music was arguably as big as Genesis and Yes's, if not more. I have quite a bit of Kansas on vinyl, it's okay but I never really considered them prog... and if they are then Deep Purple and Led Zeppelin are just as prog (and according to PA, almost everything is). Wow. That's ignorance. Listen to "Song for America" title track, "Magnum Opus", "Miracles out of Nowhere", "Incomudro", or "The Pinnacle" and THEN tell me that. Deep Purple or Led Zeppelin never approached those tracks at ALL in progginess. Dream Theater is musical masterbation lubed up guitar heroes on speed jacked up on drugs playing music that induces headaches, if that constitutes as prog for you then okay sure, fine.  It's all subjective anyway, and if you disagree then your subjectivity sucks (in my subjective view of my own subjectivity). :P Whatever you think. Scenes from a Memory is a modern masterpiece and "Octavarium" (the song) alone is definitely completely prog.

Oy!